Linux-Misc Digest #958, Volume #24 Tue, 27 Jun 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ????Linux Installation and Setup Questionare???? (N/A)
Re: How to contact Apache remotely. (alan)
Partitioning Software (AnandPatel)
Re: raid 0 problems after kernel upgrade ("Horst Simon")
SMP Monitoring on Linux (Peter S F Luk)
Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s* ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: Rebuilt kernel, can't find DAC960 module (Cokey de Percin)
Re: general question? (Neal Lippman)
Re: SMP Monitoring on Linux (Hal Burgiss)
Re: How to contact Apache remotely. (Dances With Crows)
Re: Partitioning Software (Dances With Crows)
IPC Tool (Linux2796)
Re: How much memory do I need for this server (Steve Coile)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:26:56 +0100
J Bland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>>Linux requires at least 4M. You might try Minix, which can definitely run
>>vi and some sort of Telnet client, and is a lot more usable than ELKS atm.
> Maybe DOS?
> Please, don't kill me! ;)
Linux can run in 1 Meg... There are a number of single floppy distributions
for example.
It'll be a very limited setup though, and you'd probably want 8 megs of
swap...
(X is right out)
:)
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ????Linux Installation and Setup Questionare????
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:30:08 GMT
Dmitri V wrote:
>
> > 3)how do i find my computers specifications and configurations correct
so
> > i can program them into my XF86Setup?
>
> Well, this is only *my* experience, but:
>
> 1. Usually, Linux installation script determines your hardware without
> any problems. Unless you've got something *very* new or *very* strange.
>
> But if you have troubles with installing Linux, info about your hardware
> is an indispensable thing. Really. Do not try to underestimate it.
>
> 2. If you have windows on this machine, go to My Computer -> Properties
> -> Device Manager and write down/print out everything you see there.
>
> But if you do not have Windoze, you may want to
>
> 3a. Get down a screwdriver, open the box and look what is there.
> 3b. Blow a layer of dust you've collected on the manuals of your machine
> and RTFM, RTFM, RTFM, RTFM....
>
> There are also many ways to gather info from within Linux:
>
> SuperProbe will tell you everything you wanted to know about you video
> card, but were afraid to ask;
> cat /proc/pci will kindly inforom you what is on you pci bus;
> cat /proc/cpuinfo - same about cpu;
> xdpyinfo will give you extensive information about your X server;
>
> ... and so on!
>
>
> HTH
>
> Dmitri
thank you very much, i cant thank you enough especially since i thought my
onslaught of 5 questions would be a little too tedious for anyone to want
to handle so i thank you......DKWII.
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From: alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to contact Apache remotely.
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:30:04 GMT
Thanks Dances old chap,
So to overcome the problem of everchanging local IP addresses, it
seems the best way is to lodge a domain name at a nameserver. I have a
domain name that I actually bought a month ago -
http://www.easternbranch.com. In theory, if I give this to my ISP and ask
them to add this to their nameserver and give me a fixed IP address, I
would be remotely contactable (whilst up at the local end)?
-Alan
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:30:03 GMT, alan
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >Would like to know what exactly is involved. I know about localhost and
> >127.0.0.1 for local contact. Obviously, for remote contact I need to
know
> >my own unique IP address (where is that kept?). Then do I simply enter
that
> >from a remote loaction while this machine is on the internet?? Please
>
> To see which IP address(es) your machine currently has, enter
> "/sbin/ifconfig" at the command line. The "lo" interface is the loopback
> network, which is always present and always 127.0.0.1.
>
> To reach your machine from the outside world, you need nothing more than
> an IP address and a network connection. It's just http://208.176.111.37/
> if you don't have a domain name. However, static IPs are getting hard to
> find these days. Normally, cable modem/DSL/dialup service providers
> assign you a dynamic IP via DHCP, and the IP of your machine can change
> without warning, making it more difficult than it should be to connect to
> your home computer. There's a partial solution at http://dyndns.org .
>
> If you want to access your machine using something like
> http://my.place.org/ , then you need to purchase a domain name, and you
> need to either run named and BIND on your machine (and probably have it
up
> 24/7) or have your machine's IP and domain added to a nameserver
> somewhere.
>
> Further information available in the Net-3 HOWTO and Networking HOWTO on
> http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ .
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at
the face
> \----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and
still
> \There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So
did
> But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?"
--/me
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From: AnandPatel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partitioning Software
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:30:05 GMT
I recently purchased Corel Linux OS Deluxe. Before I started to install I
noticed that my hard drive needs to be partitioned prior to installation.
The software did not come with partitioning software. Where can I find it?
Which is the most reliable? And most importantly, which one is going to
allow me to run linux and windows 98 off of the same hard drive? Any help
would be greatly appreciated. Thank You
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From: "Horst Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: raid 0 problems after kernel upgrade
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:43:04 +1000
Iam sorry I am of no help. I experienced the same problem with
SuSE 6.4 going from 2.2.15 to 2.2.16. I wnet back to
2.2.15 to get it working again.
Regards,
Horst Simon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (blair christensen) wrote:
> hello, rh 6.2 on a dell poweredge 4400 box. it was running 2.2.14-5
> with a raid 0 array. i upgraded the kernel to 2.2.16 and i
> am now having problems with the raid device (/dev/md0).
>
> when i try to mount the device, i get:
>
> # mount /home
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md0,
> or too many mounted file systems
> (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
> instead of some logical partition inside?)
>
> # tune2fs -l /dev/md0
> tune2fs 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 tune2fs: Attempt to
> read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open
> /dev/md0 Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
>
>
> i'm sort of unsure of how to proceed at this moment.
>
> thanks, blair christensen
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From: Peter S F Luk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SMP Monitoring on Linux
Date: 28 Jun 2000 01:37:47 GMT
Dear All,
I'm seeking some tools to monitor the CPU loading on different CPU on a
Linux SMP box. Can anyone recommend some tools to me (non GUI or GUI)??
PS : In solaris, top, proctool & mpstat can show individual CPU loading,
I'm finding similiar tools on Linux.
Rgds
Peter
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s*
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:58:19 -0500
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Hendrix wrote:
[ snip of entire post ]
People in this thread have asserted that thier pronunciation is
'correct' ( although often with smileys ). The definitive source
for all of this hooey is, of course, the jargon file. The jargon
file is, I believe, maintained by Eric S. Raymond, and is available
for perusal at the following URL:
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html
The current version, to my knowledge is 4.2.0. The reason I am
pointing this out now, is because there has been many a flame over
the pronunciation of Linux, or daemon. In fact, most of the
dialects you will hear are 'correct'. So have fun with it
and pronounce it how you will, as long as people understand you,
your golden.
anm
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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rebuilt kernel, can't find DAC960 module
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:01:02 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a PII SMP system running RedHat 6.2. I have two logical drives
> created from a Mylex DAC960 controller.
>
> The RedHat install recognised the controller, and I'm actually booting
> from the logical drive. I assume this is handled by the kernel loading
> a ramdisk to hold the appropriate modules (that initrd= line in lilo,
> right?), which mount the appropriate filesystems, and everything is go.
>
> I want to rebuild my kernel now, but I'm confused on some points.
> First, can't I include the DAC960 module directly into the kernel so I
> don't have to use a ramdisk? I can't find the DAC960 listed in
> menuconfig's SCSI drivers section.
It's a 'block' driver, not a SCSI and yes you can. Works fine.
>
> Also, I've read the how-to about kernel rebuilds, but it doesn't mention
> "make modules" and "make modules_install", but other people say they're
> needed. Do I need these steps? What are they for?
Only if you have modules and most of us do. Should be obvious; they build
the modules and move them the /lib/modules.
>
> When I do the build, I get errors like "Kernel Panic, CRC error" or
> "Cannot load DAC960.o". Why can't my new kernel find that module? Any
> suggestions?
>
You have to build the ramdisk file you referred to. The easiest way is to
just build the DAC block device into the kernel so you don't need (and should
not use) the initrd= parameter.
I suggest that you learn more about building a kernel before you try it. Also,
always keep a spair kernel (/etc/lilo.conf) so if your new one craps, you can
recover.
Best
Cokey
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From: Neal Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: general question?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:12:58 GMT
Dowe Keller wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:37:51 -0400, Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> I would advise you to read up. www.linux.org links to a great deal of Linux
> information.
>
> Yes, Linux like most modern unixes can be used with a GUI (called X-Windows).
>
> Yes, the GUI is separate from the kernel. What kind of flaky O.S. would
> integrate something like the GUI with the kernel? Sounds like a poor idea
> to me :-).
>
LOL. It's not the integration of the GUI with the OS that is the problem...it
seemed to work just fine on the Mac...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: SMP Monitoring on Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:15:44 GMT
On 28 Jun 2000 01:37:47 GMT, Peter S F Luk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm seeking some tools to monitor the CPU loading on different CPU on a
>Linux SMP box. Can anyone recommend some tools to me (non GUI or GUI)??
>
>PS : In solaris, top, proctool & mpstat can show individual CPU loading,
>I'm finding similiar tools on Linux.
There is a patch for top. See the SMP FAQ for URL. Worse, comes to
worse, I can email patch or src.rpm.
10:14pm up 41 days, 2:30, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
106 processes: 102 sleeping, 1 running, 2 zombie, 1 stopped
CPU states: 1.6% user, 1.3% system, 0.0% nice, 96.9% idle
CPU0 states: 1.0% user, 0.4% system, 0.0% nice, 98.0% idle
CPU1 states: 1.4% user, 1.4% system, 0.0% nice, 96.0% idle
Mem: 128176K av, 117500K used, 10676K free, 53756K shrd, 2620K buff
Swap: 124952K av, 116124K used, 8828K free 48728K cached
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE LC STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
7292 root 18 0 104M 45M 11576 0 S 1.8 36.2 1594m X
25035 hal 9 0 920 920 672 1 R 0.7 0.7 0:00 top
593 hal 3 0 1116 876 404 0 S 0.3 0.6 0:35 Eterm
1 root 0 0 128 68 48 0 S 0.0 0.0 1:38 init
2 root 0 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0.0 0.0 0:40 kflushd
3 root 0 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0.0 0.0 1:36 kupdate
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: How to contact Apache remotely.
Date: 27 Jun 2000 22:20:06 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:30:04 GMT, alan
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Thanks Dances old chap,
> So to overcome the problem of everchanging local IP addresses, it
>seems the best way is to lodge a domain name at a nameserver. I have a
>domain name that I actually bought a month ago -
>http://www.easternbranch.com. In theory, if I give this to my ISP and ask
>them to add this to their nameserver and give me a fixed IP address, I
>would be remotely contactable (whilst up at the local end)?
Yep. More than likely, they'll want you to pay extra for both the
nameserver listing and the static IP, but them's the breaks. As I said
before, you could try running BIND on your machine (read the DNS and BIND
HOWTO first!) but I don't know how much good that would do if your
machine's not going to be up 99% of the time. (All right, I'm spoiled, I
have DSL and a static IP at the moment.)
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Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Partitioning Software
Date: 27 Jun 2000 22:28:20 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:30:05 GMT, AnandPatel
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I recently purchased Corel Linux OS Deluxe. Before I started to install I
>noticed that my hard drive needs to be partitioned prior to installation.
>The software did not come with partitioning software. Where can I find it?
>Which is the most reliable? And most importantly, which one is going to
>allow me to run linux and windows 98 off of the same hard drive? Any help
>would be greatly appreciated. Thank You
Did you Read The Fine Manual, paying particular attention to the
section about FIPS.EXE? Damn Corel for not talking about this in their
Fine Manual if it's not in there, and shame on you if you didn't even look
in the Fine Manual.
Also, this is a FAQ. http://linuxnewbie.org/ has a guide, as does
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/
0. Defrag Lose9x partition.
1. Make bootable DOS disk, using FORMAT A: and SYS A: on a good
floppy. Copy the FIPS.EXE program from the /dosutils/ directory on the
Corel CD to this bootable DOS floppy. Use FIPS20; it works well.
2. Read the documentation for FIPS. Don't proceed until you have.
3. Boot from DOS floppy, run FIPS. FIPS will shrink your Lose9x partition
to whatever size you want (within limits) and create another DOS partition
which you will delete and use for Linux.
4. Boot from Corel CD. When you get to the part about partitioning,
partition the disk manually. You may want to leave /dev/hda1 alone
(that's your Lose9x installation) but delete any other partitions. Create
new Linux native and swap partitions, making the swap partition about
80-128M. Continue with install. Enjoy.
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Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linux2796)
Subject: IPC Tool
Date: 28 Jun 2000 02:32:31 GMT
Linux 6.2 has a new product featured in there for client-server development
that is both operating system and networl transparent called XIPC - has anyone
played with this tool - looks like an extension of IPC including guaranteed
messaging - any feedback on the product and company that sells it would be
appreciated.
Mike P
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Coile)
Subject: Re: How much memory do I need for this server
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:04:33 GMT
Lonni J. Friedman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>David Rolfe wrote:
>> I am putting together a linux box that will sit on the internet that
>> students can telnet to do their programming assignments. We want to
>> support 30 students. They will be only running telnet sessions in line
>> mode and compiling and running simple programs. The machine we have is a
>> 450 MHZ machine with 64 Megs of memory.
>
>I wonder how well that box is going to function if you have 30 people
>simultaneously compiling code on it. I think memory is the least of
>your concerns.
So long as they aren't compiling kernels or X, the machine is fine as
it stands (in fact, you could probably get by quite reasonably with
significantly less).
[...]
>>In addition, is there some configuration file somewhere that limits the
>>number of telnet sessions?
Not typically. Why would you want to do this?
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