Linux-Misc Digest #963, Volume #24               Wed, 28 Jun 00 09:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Server monitoring ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Porblems with my ISDN Card ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux ISPs?! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Struggling with postfix ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Shell scripting and chmod +s ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Problems NFS mounting from Solaris to Linux (Linux is server) 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  is there a port to windows media player? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  insmod failed? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Requirements for writing an operating system... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  stability of culture of helpfulness ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Easy way to send files through FTP... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Who is loading the system and why? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Powerd client for other systems? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  insmod failed? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Easy way to send files through FTP... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  'Essential' files to backup ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Requirements for writing an operating system... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  include math.h ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Cant create a partition with disk druid?? (newbie) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  stability of culture of helpfulness ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Internet backup services for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Internet backup services for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Who is loading the system and why? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  web based useradd function

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Server monitoring
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:39:49 GMT, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you need a tool that monitors your servers constantly and
> reports any problems to you by mail.
> 
> Go to http://systemguard.tripod.com/

This isn't Free Software.

See http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/admin/mon/html -- Mon is GPL'd
and capable of monitoring all sorts of things from free disk space
to memory, to processes, to network interfaces (ie, did the T1 on
 your
Cisco die?) to servers...   My favorite monitor is one that ensures
that HP OpenView hasn't puked on itself and is still running.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be
 waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh
 day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Porblems with my ISDN Card
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: Joris Maes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello,

    I'm trying to install my isdn card, but i ran into a lot of
problems. My
card wasn't supported by i4l so I got the modules from the
 manufacturer,
and
placed them into the right directory "/lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc".
 The
modules are compiled for the kernel 2.2.12 but they may be loaded
 with
higher kernels acoording to the manufacturer. BTW, my card is an
 ASUSCOM
P-IN100-ST-D ( a pci card). There were two modules: isdn.o en
 hisax.o.

   I loaded isdn.o with the command "#insmod -f isdn.o", I got a
 warning
about the version, but the module was loaded. But when I try to load
 the
hisax module ("#insmod -f hisax.o") I got the following error

Warning: kernel-module version mismatch
 hisax.o was compiled for kernel version 2.2.12
 while this kernel is version 2.2.12-20

hisax.o: init_module: Device or resource busy

  The problem could be an IRQ conflict, in Winblows I have to disable
 one
of
serial ports.

   I disabled both the serieal ports in BIOS(AWARD) and  I disabled
PnP-OS.

   Also when I do a depmod -a I get the following errors

   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/dss1_divert.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/pcbit.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/isdnloop.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/isdn_bsdcomp.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/isdn.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/icn.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/hisax.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/capidrv.o : unresolved symbol(s)

  I hope you can answer the following questions, or point me the way
 to a
good HOWTO or FAQ(although i already read a lot of them).

-Is it an IRQ conflict??
-If yes, how do I solve it?

My configuration
  RH6.1 with kernel version 2.2.12-20
  AMD-K7 500 Mhz, 64MB RAM
  NIC: Realtek 8139
  SBLive(doesn't work yet in Linux)
  Riva TNT2 Ultra M64

  Thanks, Joris, If you have any answers responses are welcome at
[EMAIL PROTECTED], or in the newsgroup, don't send to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. If this is the wrong newsgroup, please excuse me and point me to
 the
right
one.







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux ISPs?!
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8ituli$37v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter
 Bismuti) wrote:
> I checked out Freeweb, but their registration link is broken. 
> 
> Are there any other new ISPs for Linux?

I had that problem and sent email. I got an answer 2 days later
saying the link was fixed, and it was. You might try the same.
 
> What is kppp?  I tried checking the man pages and came up empty. 

A graphic dialup program, sorta like 'Doze DUN (or DUMB, in my
estimation).



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Struggling with postfix
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: AlexPGP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 09:16:30AM +0000, Andrew Onifer wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:11:45 GMT, AlexPGP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >My proposed solution is to figure out how I can *force* 'twain' to
> >relay through my ISPs mail server, because if I can do that, the
> >problem goes away, since my ISP's mail server will accept mail
 from
> >my static IP address.
> >
> >Of course, if there's a better way to do this, I'm all ears.
> 
> Have you checked the postfix faq? 
 http://postfix.merit.edu/faq.html
> 
> I have a line in main.cf that says "relayhost =
 mail.mindspring.com"
> I think that's all you need, but I don't have a linux box sitting
> between me and my ISP.

I did check the postfix faq, and I thought I'd tried this, but upon
closer examination, the parameter 'relayhost' in the faq became
'relay_domains' when it came to editing the config file. 

Let me give it a try, starting with this post. :^)

Cheers...
-- 
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 www.galexi.com/alex/
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 anything.
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 Roosevelt)


 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
 Before you buy.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Shell scripting and chmod +s
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dirk Reckmann)

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:24:52 +0200, Wolfgang Fritz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> PROBLEM:
>> 
>> I want to provide Internet dialup using ISDN/Modem to a group
>> of people. To configure/initializing
>> the dialup they have to call programs that are only accesible
>> to root (isdnctrl for example) but I
>> don't want the programs 'chmod +s'. Instead I wrote a
>> shell script, that does the technical configuration
>> stuff for the logged in user. To gain access to the root-programs
>> I 'chmod +s' this script.
>> 
>> BUT: It didn't worked. Even if the script has the setuid bit set,
>> it is still denied to execute the root-programs.
>> 
>> Why? And what can I do to make it work?

>Take a look at sudo (man sudo). I use it for this kind of problem.

I had a simmilar problem a few weeks ago, and found the 'sudo'
 workaround.
But still i'm asking myself: Why doesn't the u+s bit work for
 scripts?
(I actually only tried #!/bin/sh ones...)

Ciao,
  Dirk



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems NFS mounting from Solaris to Linux (Linux is server)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)

In article <8j8bo8$2g2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8j855r$hit$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Kenny McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On the Solaris (2.5.1) side (w.x.y.z is IP addr of Linux machine
 (hard IP,
>>no DNS):
>>
>># mount w.x.y.z:/tmp !$
>>mount w.x.y.z:/tmp /splat
>>nfs mount: w.x.y.z: NFS service not responding
>>nfs mount: retrying: /splat
>>^C# (I hit ^C here to interrupt it)
>>
>>and on the Linux side, in /var/log/messages (fluffy is machine
 name):
>>
>>Jun 26 12:21:13 fluffy mountd[469]: authenticated mount request
 from sunmachine:964
>>Jun 26 12:21:13 fluffy kernel: svc: unknown version (3)
>>Jun 26 12:21:13 fluffy mountd[469]: authenticated mount request
 from sunmachine:964
>>Jun 26 12:21:13 fluffy kernel: svc: unknown version (3)
>>Jun 26 12:21:18 fluffy mountd[469]: authenticated mount request
 from sunmachine:964
>>Jun 26 12:21:18 fluffy kernel: svc: unknown version (3)
>>Jun 26 12:21:28 fluffy mountd[469]: authenticated mount request
 from sunmachine:964
>>Jun 26 12:21:28 fluffy kernel: svc: unknown version (3)
>>
>>Any ideas?
>
>Well, on the face of it looks as though the Linux box is advertising
 NFS
>version 3 support through its portmapper, but that its kernel
 doesn't actually
>support version 3, so it all comes apart.
>
>Try forcing NFS version 2 at the Solaris end by using
>
>   mount -o vers=2 w.x.y.z:/tmp /splat
>
>and see whether that works any better.

Yes!  Many, many thanks.

The net works (I.e., post a question - get an answer!)

(Usually, it doesn't work so well, but when it does, it's
 beautiful...)




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: is there a port to windows media player?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: "Daniel Klimkowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I need to know if there is a port of Windows media player to Linux or
anything that emulates it.  I'm wanting it so that I can stream audio
 from
online radio stations and most of them require Windows Media Player.





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: insmod failed?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: "Devon Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm getting "insmod eth1 failed" during boot-up, but i'm able to
 manually to
bring up the ethernet like this:

# insmod 3c509
# ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1

How can I enable this through boot-up.  The device it a 3Com 509b on
 eth1

Thanks,

-Devon





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Requirements for writing an operating system...
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: "-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi There

I am a linux newbie and I am very much fascinated with the Linux
 Kernel. And
Linus Torvalds is a role model for me because I too want to write my
 own OS
one day.

I am still in school and I know quite a lot of stuff in computers but
 I am
just curious about what are the requirements in order to write an OS.
 Can
anyone out there advise me please? Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: stability of culture of helpfulness
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

+ In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006252222390.4371-
+ [EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
+   "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ > You are a real piece of work.  Learn to spell, get an idea of
 what
+ > you are talking about, then maybe post if you have something
 useful
+ > to contribute, troll.
+ 
+ I believe that would make you the troll-ee. Nice spelling flame
 too!

Not the 'troll-ee', but the *plonker*. :-) Big difference.

anm
-- 
/*-------------------------------------------------------.
| Andrew N. McGuire                                      |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]                              |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Easy way to send files through FTP...
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: Doug Priebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I normally use wget
http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/wget.html

Hendrix wrote:

> Hi guys.
>
> Is there a quick and easy method of sending a file to an FTP
> site...!!!!!!!  I looking for a shell script, perl script, C/C++
> program...  Anything, as long as it is fairly simple...
>
> Basically, what I want it to do is to connect to the ftp server
 with an
> already defined username and password, and automatically send the
> file... I would like the whole process to be transparent...  When
 the
> script/program is executed, it will do the task and then
 terminate...
> Nothing needs to be inputted by the user, and nothing needs to be
> returned to the screen...
>
> Sincerely, and thanks...
> --
> Trevor Penney,
> A+, Network+ Certified
> ----------------------
> That's alright, I still have my guitar...!!!!




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Who is loading the system and why?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

' [snip a bunch of sleepers]
' 
' > root       157  0.0  0.3  1124   468  ?  D    23:28   0:00
' > /usr/sbin/apmd -w 10
' 
' this apmd is in the D state.  doesn't that mean waiting for data
 from
' some IO device?  perhaps this is stuck and causing your load of 1.
' this is just a wild guess from the earlier comment about IO.  maybe
' i have no idea what i am talking about.  please correct me if so.

I have no idea what the D stat means.  However, I did see apmd in the
list twice.  I took a chance and ran the /sbin/init.d/apmd stop
command, and the load started to drop.

This is a portable computer, but I never seem to run it off the
battery.  apm still works.  I'm fine now, thanks.

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

All bits are significant.  Some bits are more significant than
 others.
        -- Charles Babbage Orwell



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Powerd client for other systems?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT

From: "news.compuserve.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

    Has anybody seen a powerd client for non-Linux systems, in
 particular
Windows NT/2000 systems?  I'd like to run several machines from a
 single
UPS, but the machines are a mix of Linux and Windows 2000 machines. 
 I know
the Linux machine can act as a powerd server, signaling the other
 machines
when there's a change in the UPS status, but I can't seem to find a
 powerd
client.  I found one reference on Deja to a client at
http://www.brianweb.dyn.ez-ip.net/~brian/ntpowerd/, but that link
 doesn't
seem to work; the browser times out trying to connect to the server.





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: insmod failed?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: Michael Molson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

are you using RH? you must alias your eth1 to
the 3c509 module in /etc/conf.modules (modules.conf)
file.
ie        alias eth1 3c509

mike molson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Devon Harding wrote:

> I'm getting "insmod eth1 failed" during boot-up, but i'm able to
 manually to
> bring up the ethernet like this:
>
> # insmod 3c509
> # ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1
>
> How can I enable this through boot-up.  The device it a 3Com 509b
 on eth1
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Devon




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Easy way to send files through FTP...
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:08:22 -0500, Doug Priebe
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Is there a quick and easy method of sending a file to an FTP
>> site...!!!!!!!  I looking for a shell script, perl script,
>> C/C++ program...  Anything, as long as it is fairly simple...

>I normally use wget http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/wget.html

I thought wget would only "get" files from ftp sites and not
"put" files to ftp sites.  I've not been able to figure out
from the wget man page how to send files...

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  I have a
 very good
                                  at               DENTAL PLAN. Thank
 you.
                               visi.com            



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 'Essential' files to backup
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)

As root
        rpm -Va|grep '..5'>/tmp/verify

Now, /tmp/verify contains what does not match what you installed.
Look through /tmp/verify and see what you realy want to save.


On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:36:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What are the 'essential' Linux configuration files I should backup
 so
>that I can restore Linux (Mandrake 7) to its current configuration
 if
>there is a

-- 
The warranty and liability expired as you read the message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it. 
Do a,  man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a
 script.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Requirements for writing an operating system...
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Hi There

> I am a linux newbie and I am very much fascinated with the Linux
 Kernel. And
> Linus Torvalds is a role model for me because I too want to write
 my own OS
> one day.

> I am still in school and I know quite a lot of stuff in computers
 but I am
> just curious about what are the requirements in order to write an
 OS. Can
> anyone out there advise me please? Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It depends on who complex you want the OS to be.
Put in its simplest terms, all an OS is, is a software layer between
 the
hardware and the user that manages system resources in such a way
 that the
user is unaware of all the complex stuff going on in the background.

In the early days of home computers (1970s/1980s) the machines were
 so
simple there was barely an operating system worth mentioning.

Just a few simple IO routines to allow printing on the screen and
 loading
from magnetic media (And maybe a BASIC interpreter). 

Even machines that had an OS usually had the OS disabled by more
 complex
software to make use of the machine at peak efficiency. (Remove the
 OS layer
and grab all hardware for yourself).

As you probably want to know about more modern OSes, these do (some
 or all
of) the following.

Memory management (Allocating memory to processes)
Hardware management (Allocating space for hardware drivers, and time
 to that
hardware)
Time Management (Time slicing. Pre-emptive or Co-operative
 multitasking).
Prevention of clashes (only one process to write to hardware at a
 time).
Virtual Memory management (controlling the use of swap space, and how
 memory
swapping is handled in the most efficient way possible...)

Windows excluded??? *snigger*

Go to the library and ask for books on Operating Systems (generic) or
 
Unix/Linux systems programming in particular.
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 and a    |
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|Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| operating system originally  coded for a
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|            in            |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: include math.h
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nikodemus Karlsson)

Thanks!
/Nikodemus

On 26 Jun 2000 11:21:06 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
>Nikodemus Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: I want to include math.h in a c-program,
>
>Well, fine.
>
>: which library do I have link the prohgram with?
>
>You don't HAVE to link it with any. But I think you are
>asking "where are the math functions". They're in the
>math library, libm. So compile with -lm.
>
>This is a unix FAQ.
>
>Peter



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cant create a partition with disk druid?? (newbie)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: "Trent Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Hi again,

I figured the best way to get out of my linux mess, was a complete
 fresh
install.  Guess not, cause here is my problem:

I have 2 hard drives:  one 13gig cut up for windows and one 5gig cut
 up for
linux.

The problem is that I can only create a swap partion on my 5 gig
 drive.  I
have deleted all partitions in fdisk, disk druid, linux fdisk,
 delpart etc
etc and every time I come to disk druid in the setup.  It says that I
 have
100% free space on  my 5 gig drive, but when I try to create a /boot
 or a /
root drive it says there isnt enough space.

Oddly enough I can create swap files (as many , or as big as I want
 with the
5 gig drive?)

Why cant I make any other drives?  I tried creating them with fdisk
 and
converting to linux but no go.

I did an Fdisk /mbr as well (just cause i ran out of things to try)
 but
nothing.

So I guess Linux doesnt want to go on my machine, but I am sure that
 there
must be something I can do.....isnt there?

Please Help!

Trent  (newbie)





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: stability of culture of helpfulness
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In comp.os.linux.misc Andrew N. McGuire  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> + In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006252222390.4371-
> + [EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> +   "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> + > You are a real piece of work.  Learn to spell, get an idea of
 what
> + > you are talking about, then maybe post if you have something
 useful
> + > to contribute, troll.
> + 
> + I believe that would make you the troll-ee. Nice spelling flame
 too!

> Not the 'troll-ee', but the *plonker*. :-) Big difference.

Being one who *PLONK*s, I hope.... (As in killfiles)
:)

-- 
______________________________________________________________________
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 Pinky?"   |
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        |
|            in            | "I think so brain, but this time, you
 control   |
|     Computer Science     |  the Encounter suit, and I'll do the
 voice..."  |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Internet backup services for Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Mark Wang would say:
>Robie Basak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: Hmm. Assuming you just bought yourself a new hard drive, it's got
 to
>: be at least > 10 Gb or so. In which case, what kind of internet
 speed
>: do you have? If you've only just started considering it, have you
 made
>: sure you've calculated the time it'll take to do a full
 backup/money
>: it will cost?
>
>True, however, the size of the data that I really need backed up
 (ie,
>stuff that can't be re-installed or re-created easily) is small
 relative
>to this -- around 500 MB - 1 GB  or so.  Plus, the way most services
 work
>is that they just incrementally back up changed files, so after the
 first
>full backup, the amount of data is much smaller.
>
>I'm on a Ethernet connection, and a fast connection to the Internet
>backbone, so bandwidth shouldn't be an issue for me.
>
>If anyone knows _any_ suggestions, please let me know.  Seems to me
 this
>is a potentially large market.

See: 
<http://www.betterbackups.com/>
<http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/features/utilities99/onlinebk03.html>
<http://www.miletus.com/Net-Archive.html>

And, particularly...
<http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Internet/\
Site_Management/Backup/>

It sorta looks like <http://thedatabank.net/> is _not_ one of the
options to look at; if they can't keep their web site up, I'd
 question
the reliability of the backups...
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This program posts news to billions of machines throughout the
 galaxy.
Your message will cost the  net enough to bankrupt your entire
 planet.
As a result your species will  be sold into slavery.  Be sure you
 know
what you are doing.  Are you absolutely sure you want to do this?
 [yn]
y



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Internet backup services for Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: Mark Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: See: 
: <http://www.betterbackups.com/>
: <http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/features/utilities99/onlinebk03.html>
: <http://www.miletus.com/Net-Archive.html>

I've looked into most of them already.  The problem is: These sites
 all
use proprietary client software which don't support Linux.  As I
 clearly
stated in my original post (and since I'm posting this to a _Linux_
newsgroup), I am interested in seeing if there were any such services
which are comparable to these that DO support Linux.


: And, particularly...
: <http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Internet/\
: Site_Management/Backup/>

-- Mark

-- 
Mark Wang                           "Darkness cannot drive out
 darkness; only
Stanford University '99              light can do that.  Hate cannot
 drive out
[EMAIL PROTECTED]        hate; only love can do that."
http://www.cs.stanford.edu/~mwang/              -- Martin Luther
 King, Jr.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Who is loading the system and why?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:00:02 GMT, wrote :

DS> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland) writes:
DS> 
DS> ' Unless someone knows a way of listing things in the IO queue I
 think the
DS> ' best way of tracking something like this down is just to kill
 things off one
DS> ' by one until you find the culprit, although an educated guess
 can speeden it
DS> ' up.
DS> 
DS> Well, it seems that apmd was the culprit.  I noticed that it was
DS> listed twice in the ps aux listing.  That aroused my suspicions. 
 I
DS> stoped it with the /sbin/init.d/apmd stop command.  The load
 averages
DS> then started to fall.
DS> 
DS> The apm program still works.  I don't see that I need apmd.  I'm
 not
DS> exactly sure what it offers.  The man page is of no help.

Is 'solo' a laptop or a desktop?  If a desktop, apmd is mostly
 useless.
'apmd' is the Automatic Power Management daemon -- it takes care to
put your system into 'suspend' mode properly when you close the lid
 of
your laptop so you can conserve battery life and still have Linux be
 up
and generally sane.  On a desktop, plugged into a hard connection to
the power grid, this is just a waste of effort -- desktop battery
backups (UPS) would be in powerd's world.  Recent versions of RedHat
(6.x) and I guess SuSE as well have been shipping kernels with apm
BIOS support and seem to be installing apmd and setting it up to run
at boot.  Which I guess makes things easier for people with laptops,
but is just extraneous crud for people with desktops and servers. 
*I* guess some of the *newer* desktops have an small bit of the APM
BIOS stuff -- our newer Celeron, PII, and PIII boxes (i.e. Gateway
ATX/Slot 1 motherboards), power themselves down when shutdown -h
finishes, instead of just saying 'System Halted' like the they did
 with
RH 5.x.

I'm guessing that your machine's BIOS is/was confusing the apm code,
causing apmd to keep beating on it (creating a LA of 1).

DS> 
DS> I've therefor modified /etc/rc.config to not start the ampd
 program at 
DS> boot up. ( This is a SuSE 6.2 based system ).
DS> 
DS> Problem solved, I guess.
DS> 
DS> -- 
DS> David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
DS> NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.
DS> 
DS> All bits are significant.  Some bits are more significant than
 others.
DS>         -- Charles Babbage Orwell
DS>                                                                  
                                                          






                         
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: web based useradd function
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:20 GMT

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear all,
     I am fresh from unix or lunix platform and my boss has bought a
 web 
mail program and force me to install, however, this program does not
 allow 
user to register their username and password.  As a free mail
 provider, I 
have no idea on how I can write a cgi script to allow public to add
 the 
user name with thier password.  Can anyone suggest any link I can
 follow 
to finish my task, thank you for your kindly help

Max


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