Linux-Misc Digest #981, Volume #24               Wed, 28 Jun 00 23:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Announce: Industrial Linux site ("scott thomason")
  Re: Handle complements (Nikodemus Karlsson)
  Re: OpenBSD/FreeBSD/NetBSD/Linux (blowfish)
  Re: ASF on Linux? (John Hasler)
  Re: Need a small C program (David Pace)
  Re: duplex HDD lilo problem
  Re: @home port scanning (Stu)
  Re: Any recommendations for distributions? (blowfish)
  Re: Any recommendations for distributions? (blowfish)
  Make and gnuvoice (Brent Turner)
  Re: Need a small C program ("Neil Marko")
  Re: raid 0 problems after kernel upgrade (ground zero)
  Bug in gcc under linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Bug in gcc under linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Need clarification:  what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'? 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Installed WordPerfect on RedHat Linux won't run
  Re: Need a small C program ("Chris Severn")
  Re: Installed WordPerfect on RedHat Linux won't run (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: Need clarification:  what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'? (Juergen 
Pfann)
  Kernel rebuilt process? (Kheng-Teong Goh)

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From: "scott thomason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Announce: Industrial Linux site
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:10:40 -0600

http://industrial-linux.org/

Industrial Linux is dedicated to professional linux system administrators 
who need a portal site for the best linux news, downloads, documentation, 
and resources for creating fast, secure, & reliable linux servers. 

http://industrial-linux.org/

I'm still in the process of preparing content. Here's a list of things to come, in 
more or less the order you can expect them:

* Guides for security, "hardening", and increasing performance (mostly done, check 
"Guides" links at the top left...) 
* Ipchains firewall builder 
* User-customized news page with feeds from more than 2,000 sites. 
* RPM search interface 
* "Box sets" for all the doc, downloads, and links for essential components like the 
linux kernel, named, apache, etc. 
* An industrial linux distribution that's "hardened" right out of box 
(penguin-flavored OpenBSD) 

http://industrial-linux.org/




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nikodemus Karlsson)
Subject: Re: Handle complements
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:17:53 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks!
/Nikodemus

>>Hi,
>>I often have to delete all the files in a directory
>>except one file or one kind of files (*.c).
>>How can I do this with one command? I want it 
>>to work like "rm -f * except *.c"
>
>find . -not -name \*.c -exec rm -f {} \;
>
>That's a bit unwieldly, but you can encapsulate that into a shell function
>or something.  Be careful with that rm -f though.
>
>-- 
>Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
>\----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
> \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
>But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OpenBSD/FreeBSD/NetBSD/Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:17:10 -0700

Martin Herrman wrote:
> 
> Dear reader,
> 
> i'm using linux for about one year now and i'm asking myself: is there
> something better? Linux is much faster and reliable than Windows Operating
> systems, but now i'm reading about the BSD operating systems i would like
> to have some information about the differences between them (OpenBSD,
> FreeBSD, NetBSD, Linux and maybe Solaris (is solaris free?)) at the
> following subjects:
> 
> 1. speed
> 2. reliability
> 3. networkingspeed
> 4. hardware support
> 5. amount of MB needed for installation
> 6. availability of desktop applications (netscape, licq, pine, slrn, xanim and
> so on)
> 7. security
> 
> I hope someone can tell me more about these other operating systems or can send

I tried 6, 7 distros of Linux, since the pre-ELF days.

And FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, Win 3.x, Win9.x Win
NT.

The *BEST* Linux distro, and the best OS is FreeBSD. :)

I use both Linux and BSD these days.

FreeBSD is a speeding rocket daemon, especially with a
custom kernel. Stable as hell.  (BTW.Building a custom
kernel with FreeBSD is almost a brain-dead event. Almost
impossible to make mistake, even for a newbie,) and the
ports system for apps installation and the whole/partial
system upgrade in like magic, makes .rpm, .deb and all other
Linux way of doing things look like unnecessary difficult
and like child's play. Non of any other OSs can even come
close to its ease and simplicity of getting things going.
Installation is a breeze. It's so easy, to the point of
being boring.

Running both FreeBSD and Linux side by side, with identical
hardware set up and custom built kernel for both, loading up
the identical servers, compiling codes,  and so on, the
speed advantage of the FreeBSD over Linux is very noticable.

NetBSD runs on almost every platforms that still exists. 

And according to bugstraqs, OpenBSD hasn't been cracked for
a couple of years says a lot about its default security. 

But too bad OpenBSD doesn't support SMP yet.

But Linux still gets more toys. But most Linux's stuff will
runs fine on BSD, especially FreeBSD.

You can do a REALLY lean and minimum installation with BSD.
Or you can load up over a Gig of space. 

The choice is yours.

I'd say.  Go for it. BSD can live with Linux together in
harmony as well. You can boot BSD with Lilo. FreeBSD can
multi-boot with Linux, Windoz, OS/2, and OpenBSD. But you'll
run into problem between FreeBSD and NetBSD.(their file
systems can get confused withn one another... Linux runs for
months, *BSD runs for year, or until a power outage, or you
shut it down. :)

Alex Lam.

> me an URL.
> 
> much thanks in advance,
> 
> Martin
> 
> --
> Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
> Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14  Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
> 12:00pm up 15 days, 4:44, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.14, 0.12
> Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASF on Linux?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:07:01 GMT

Nicholas Murison writes:
> Who the hell is chewtoy.com...

toncho/~ whois chewtoy.com

Whois Server Version 1.1

Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: CHEWTOY.COM
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
   Referral URL: www.networksolutions.com
   Name Server: NS.TZO.COM
   Name Server: NS2.TZO.COM
   Updated Date: 14-dec-1998


>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 28 Jun 00 04:42:23 EDT <<<

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.


Found InterNIC referral to whois.networksolutions.com.


Registrant:
Dave & Claudia Emory (CHEWTOY2-DOM)
   21525 SW Blaine Ct.
   Aloha, OR 97006
   US

   Domain Name: CHEWTOY.COM

   Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
      Emory, Dave  (DE3687)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      Dave & Claudia Emory
      21525 SW Blaine Ct.
      Aloha, OR 97006
      503-649-3978
   Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Domains, Registrar of  (GC667)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      Tzolkin Corp.
      11 Main St.
      Pepperell, MA 01463
      (978) 433-9638 (FAX) (978) 433-6535

   Record last updated on 14-Dec-1998.
   Record expires on 14-Dec-2000.
   Record created on 14-Dec-1998.
   Database last updated on 27-Jun-2000 20:34:33 EDT.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NS.TZO.COM                   208.220.171.1
   NS2.TZO.COM                  207.244.102.1

> ...and why are they quoting us?

Why not ask them?

-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: David Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Need a small C program
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:27:29 +0000

Chance Harris wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.development.apps Gerald J. Puhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : To any who can help:
> 
> : I am in need of a C program Windows 95/NT4.0 that will simply open
> : socket and connect to another machine on a port number.  I am an
> : experienced C programmer on Linux, but I am having trouble learning
> : Borland C++ (just don't have the time).  This app will be executed to
> : initiate my Linux server to do some file system tasks via inetd.  I can
> : fill in the machine name and port number needed.  BTW I am using Borland
> : 5.02 C/C++.  I feel stupid since I can't get a simple program like this
> : together, but, I don't have much experience with Windows machines.  If
> : you can help please email me direct.
> 
> Use perl. At least on the windows side. Their sockets kick ass, and
> don't require you to read any MS documentation.

I agree about the perl idea.  They have some very simple libraries.
http://search.cpan.org


-- 
David Pace - Free commodity/stock graphing software
and Linux links at http://www.daveware.com

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: duplex HDD lilo problem
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:30:08 GMT

Hello there,

I'm afraid this isn't a solution I'm just rwriting to say that I have the 
same problem.  I've installed Corel Linux on a slave disk.  But as soon as 
I remove either my machine is unbootable.  What can I do.  I just want rid 
of Linux!  Basically, how do you uninstall linux which is installed on 
drive d:\   ?

Cheers

Neill

motti wrote:
> 
> 
> since i've installed lilo on a 0.5 gb HDD on my computer that works with
> another 6.4 GB,the two cannot be seperated from each ather.the computer
> does not identify any of them in the P.O.S.T if it's each one on it's 
own.
> i've tried fdisk /MBR,and maybe i used it wrong.Even after partitioning 
and
> formating both HDD's they still act like siamic twins.
> 
> please help!
> 
> motti
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 


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From: Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: @home port scanning
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:33:17 GMT

Alex wrote:

> Hi,
>  my @home provider has been known to port scan machines once in a while to
> make sure that no one is running things like web and ftp servers.
>  I am curious to know if they port scan me, and if so, what port range did
> they scan. Under linux, how can I find out these details ie. which logs may
> I examine, use of the nmap program?
>  Also, would it still be possible to run a mail server for myself in this
> situation?
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

Yes they scan.  They usually scan the news port.  The machine that scans is:
24.0.94.130 (a.k.a. authorized-scan.security.home.net).

The easiest thing to do is, go to
http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/firewall/index.html and build an
ipchains firewall.  Install it according to the instructions, then add
'ipchains -A input -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -s 24.0.94.130 -j DENY' to the file
/etc/rc.d/rc.firewall.blocked and it will drop all the packets they send you.

Problem solved.


Stu


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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any recommendations for distributions?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:49:57 -0700

Stephen wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I am a C programmer looking for a stable and proven Linux distribution
> that will meet my needs. It needs to have gcc & etc., web server, news
> server, email server, ftp server, web browser, networking utitlities, X
> window system, Perl, PPP, multi-user, multi-tty, boot-loader that will
> let me choose to boot in Win95 or Linux, and it doesn't have to be very
> user-friendly.
> 
> Any recommendations? I'm leaning towards Slackware 7.0 right now, but I
> want to be sure it will not be like the RedHat 5.0 distribution that I
> bought a few years ago (it had so many problems, I found it to be a
> waste of money and completely useless).
> 
You forgot to mention: and a waste of time.

> Also, can anyone point me to a good, comlete list of drivers for any
> Linux distribution?
>
FreeBSD.

Alex Lam.
 
> Have a good day!
> Stephen
> --
> Please do not email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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> Before you buy.

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any recommendations for distributions?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:02:31 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > Hello!
> 
> > I am a C programmer looking for a stable and proven Linux distribution
> > that will meet my needs. It needs to have gcc & etc., web server, news
> > server, email server, ftp server, web browser, networking utitlities, X
> > window system, Perl, PPP, multi-user, multi-tty, boot-loader that will
> > let me choose to boot in Win95 or Linux, and it doesn't have to be very
> > user-friendly.
> 
> You've just about described every distribution (apart from the mini ones)
> out there...
> 
> > Any recommendations? I'm leaning towards Slackware 7.0 right now, but I
> > want to be sure it will not be like the RedHat 5.0 distribution that I
> > bought a few years ago (it had so many problems, I found it to be a
> > waste of money and completely useless).
> 
> Red Hat is up to 6.2 now... All the distributions are very different now
> from how they were back in 1998. Red HAt do have a bit of a reputation for
> trying to get things out quickly without proper testing, and the general
> consensus is to not buy Red Hat x.0 or x.1 (the problems are usually fixed
> by x.2).
> 
Yeah . Right!

Back in the old days, when Red Hat was just starting out,
and they're answering questions here actively, even, then,
they couldn't give me any solution to my problems that kept
me from installing their crappy distro successfully, while
at least Slackware were able to install and run quite
smoothly with my hardware.

Yes, I did tried their 6.2. It's still a joke.

Alex Lam.
> > Also, can anyone point me to a good, comlete list of drivers for any
> > Linux distribution?
> 
> There is a Hardware compatibility list out there somewhere, if that's what
> you want... Linux tends not to have "drivers" in the windows sense, instead
> it has Kernel modules....
> 
> Can't remember where the list is though, sorry.
> 
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |   Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a    |
> |                          | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
> |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| operating system originally  coded for a 4 bit |
> |            in            |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
> |     Computer Science     |        can't stand 1 bit of competition.       |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: Brent Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Make and gnuvoice
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:12:58 -0700

I am trying to install gnuvoice-1.0.1. I have gathered the dependencies
(gsm-1.0.3, jlib-1.0.4-1, gtkmm-1.1.8) and installed them with rpm (gtk
1.2.1 was already on my system). Following the README, I run ./configure
and pass it two variables (--with-dbase=mysql and
--with-modem-type=sport),

Here is the problem: when I then run make, per the README, from the
gnuvoice-1.0.1 directory I get this error

make: *** No targets. Stop.

This would seem like a straightforward problem., but it has me stumped
because I am not sure what target to specify. Do I need to specify a
target? Am I in the wrong directory? Any suggestions, they would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Brent



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From: "Neil Marko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Need a small C program
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:13:31 GMT

Try using telnet.  Usually you can tell it to use any port you want.

NM

Gerald J. Puhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> To any who can help:
>
> I am in need of a C program Windows 95/NT4.0 that will simply open
> socket and connect to another machine on a port number.  I am an
> experienced C programmer on Linux, but I am having trouble learning
> Borland C++ (just don't have the time).  This app will be executed to
> initiate my Linux server to do some file system tasks via inetd.  I can
> fill in the machine name and port number needed.  BTW I am using Borland
> 5.02 C/C++.  I feel stupid since I can't get a simple program like this
> together, but, I don't have much experience with Windows machines.  If
> you can help please email me direct.
>
> Thanx!
>
> Gary P.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>



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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:18:26 -0500
From: ground zero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: raid 0 problems after kernel upgrade

Dell released a special support file for RedHat 6.2 on a PowerEdge server
( http://support.dell.com/us/en/filelib/download/index.asp?fileid=2917 )

  March 27, 2000

  This release includes one ZIP file:
  rh62sbe1.zip - All Dell-provided READMEs, drivers, and RPMs.

  README for Red Hat Linux 6.2 System Builder Edition 1
  as installed on Dell PowerEdge servers.

  Your PowerEdge server came pre-installed with Red Hat Linux 6.2 System
  Builder Edition 1 (SBE1). In addition, Dell has newly installed or
  updated several packages not present on the Red Hat Linux 6.2 CD.
  These updates include:

  - Dell logos (dell-1-1.noarch.rpm)
  - XF86Config file for PowerEdge 8450 video
(Xconfig-cirrus-1-3.noarch.rpm)
  - XF86Config file for all other PowerEdge platforms
  (Xconfig-rageserv-1-2.noarch.rpm)

  Driver updates include:
  - AMI MegaRAID driver (Dell PERC2/SC and PERC2/DC RAID cards) driver
v1.07
  (megaraid-driver-1.07-5.i686.rpm)
  - AMI MegaRAID megamgr configuration utility
(megaraid-megamgr-1.07-5.i686.rpm)
  - Intel Pro/1000 Gigabit Ethernet driver v1.0.3
(e1000-1.0.3-4.i686.rpm)
  - Dell PERC2 and ROMB driver (percraid-2.1-0.i386.rpm)
  - Dell PERC2 and ROMB management application (afacli-2.1-0.i386.rpm)
  - Driver diskettes (needed for re-installation with PERC2 or ROMB
controllers)
  - 61sbe2dd.img - for Red Hat Linux 6.1 System Builder Edition 2
(2.2.13-0.13)
  - 62retdd.img - for Red Hat Linux 6.2 Retail (2.2.14-5.0)
  - 62upd1dd.img - for Red Hat Linux 6.2 Kernel Update #1 (2.2.14-6.0)
  - 62sbe1dd.img - for Red Hat Linux 6.2 System Builder Edition 1
(2.2.14-6.1)

  It should be noted that these drivers and driver diskettes do not work
  with kernel versions other than those listed here. Particularly, no
  support is provided for the Red Hat Linux 6.1 Retail release (kernel
  2.2.12-20), nor 6.1 System Builer Edition 1 (kernel 2.2.12-32), nor any

  earlier releases of Red Hat Linux. Customers are encouraged to
  upgrade to a supported kernel.

blair christensen wrote:

> hello,
> rh 6.2 on a dell poweredge 4400 box.  it was running 2.2.14-5 with a
> raid 0 array.   i upgraded the kernel to 2.2.16 and i am now having
> problems with the raid device (/dev/md0).
>
> when i try to mount the device, i get:
>
> # mount /home
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md0,
>        or too many mounted file systems
>        (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
>        instead of some logical partition inside?)
>
> # tune2fs -l /dev/md0
> tune2fs 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
> tune2fs: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read
> while trying to open /dev/md0
> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
>
> i'm sort of unsure of how to proceed at this moment.
>
> thanks,
> blair christensen


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bug in gcc under linux?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:22:37 GMT

Hi,
I have a problem with this piece of code.
It compiles with gcc under Solaris, DigitalUnix,
and with VC++ on Intel and works flawlessly.
Under linux Mandrake6.0
and gcc (version 2.95.2 19991024 (release))
it compiles fine, but does not really work as it
should.

Thanks for your help,
Myaqui.

Here is the code:

#include  <unistd.h>
#include  <stdio.h>

int main(int argc, char** argv) {
  char *fileptr;
  FILE *fp;
  int   namelen;

/* read the current pathname to the fileptr
   allocating 256 bytes */
  fileptr = getcwd(NULL, 256);

/* concatenate argv[1] to the tail of the fileptr
   NOTE: the file with the name argv[1] should
   exist */
  namelen = strlen(fileptr);
  fileptr[namelen++] = '/';
  fileptr[namelen] = '\0';
  strcpy(&fileptr[namelen], argv[1]);

/* when open, fileptr's content gets corrupted
   depending on the length of the argv[1],
   in my version, it's working fine
   for strlen(argv[1]) <= 5 */
 if(fp = fopen(fileptr, "r"))
    perror("GOOD");
  else
    perror("BAD");
  return 1;
}


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bug in gcc under linux?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:22:38 GMT

Hi,
I have a problem with this piece of code.
It compiles with gcc under Solaris, DigitalUnix,
and with VC++ on Intel and works flawlessly.
Under linux Mandrake6.0
and gcc (version 2.95.2 19991024 (release))
it compiles fine, but does not really work as it
should.

Thanks for your help,
Myaqui.

Here is the code:

#include  <unistd.h>
#include  <stdio.h>

int main(int argc, char** argv) {
  char *fileptr;
  FILE *fp;
  int   namelen;

/* read the current pathname to the fileptr
   allocating 256 bytes */
  fileptr = getcwd(NULL, 256);

/* concatenate argv[1] to the tail of the fileptr
   NOTE: the file with the name argv[1] should
   exist */
  namelen = strlen(fileptr);
  fileptr[namelen++] = '/';
  fileptr[namelen] = '\0';
  strcpy(&fileptr[namelen], argv[1]);

/* when open, fileptr's content gets corrupted
   depending on the length of the argv[1],
   in my version, it's working fine
   for strlen(argv[1]) <= 5 */
 if(fp = fopen(fileptr, "r"))
    perror("GOOD");
  else
    perror("BAD");
  return 1;
}


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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:29:53 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need clarification:  what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'?
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,linux.redhat.misc

Rod Smith wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>         [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > I not sure
> > about BIOS copying MBR into memory though.  When the computer first
> > boots up, it looks for the first sector at cylinder 0, side 0 -- where
> > the first boot sector is located (called MBR).  This sector (MBR)
> > contains a small code (IPL) that tells the computer how to boot.
> 
> In other words, the computer loads it into memory.
> 
> > Win95
> > will replace this code, as does Win NT -- the program is responsible for
> > displaying OS's to choose from if you upgrade to NT from previous
> > versions of Windows, like LILO.
> 
> Although Win9x and NT both replace the MBR when they install, they don't
> use them for OS selection purposes. NT's OS Loader is located in the NT
> partition's boot sector. Why Microsoft feels compelled to have its OSs
> overwrite the MBR on installation I do not know.
> 
> > If you, Mr. Root, still insist that Win95/NT does not modify the MBR,
> > get a program that you know is going to modify the MBR, then install
> > WinNT.  This should be evidence enough.
> 
> Evidence that the MBR is overwritten, yes. Evidence that the NT boot
> loader is located there, no.
> 
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration

The MBR is loaded into memory, but I thought previous poster wrote
copying into memory -- like shadowing.  I believe you are correct about
the OS selection not being a part of the IPL.

Michael.

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installed WordPerfect on RedHat Linux won't run
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:30:13 GMT

I recently installed Wordperfect 8 on RedHat Linx 6.2 running xwindows. 
The installation process worked fine; it created the necessary folders, 
installed the necessary files, made them executables, etc. However, when I 
click on any of the executables in the *bin directory where I installed 
WordPerfect 8, nothing happens. I wait for a couple of minutes and still 
nothing happens.

Please help. I'm a newbie in this stuff.

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From: "Chris Severn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Need a small C program
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:44:27 +0800

Yeah, but telnet is interactive.

Sounds like he wants his program to automatically talk to the port at the
other end without human interaction.

Chris.

"Neil Marko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:fhy65.32579$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Try using telnet.  Usually you can tell it to use any port you want.
>
> NM
>
> Gerald J. Puhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > To any who can help:
> >
> > I am in need of a C program Windows 95/NT4.0 that will simply open
> > socket and connect to another machine on a port number.  I am an
> > experienced C programmer on Linux, but I am having trouble learning
> > Borland C++ (just don't have the time).  This app will be executed to
> > initiate my Linux server to do some file system tasks via inetd.  I can
> > fill in the machine name and port number needed.  BTW I am using Borland
> > 5.02 C/C++.  I feel stupid since I can't get a simple program like this
> > together, but, I don't have much experience with Windows machines.  If
> > you can help please email me direct.




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Subject: Re: Installed WordPerfect on RedHat Linux won't run
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:41:19 GMT

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I recently installed Wordperfect 8 on RedHat Linx 6.2 running xwindows. 
> The installation process worked fine; it created the necessary folders, 
> installed the necessary files, made them executables, etc. However, when I 
> click on any of the executables in the *bin directory where I installed 
> WordPerfect 8, nothing happens. I wait for a couple of minutes and still 
> nothing happens.
<snip>

This is just a guess but have you installed the older libc5
compatibility library rpms?

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Need clarification:  what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:45:35 +0200

Rod Smith wrote:
> 
> (snipped a lot of fine and consistent explanation...). 
> NT does, however, re-write the
> MBR when you install it, so it'll wipe out MBR-based boot loaders. Other
> boot loaders, such as Linux's LILO, can reside in the MBR (LILO can also
> reside in a partition's boot sector).
> 

As opposed to most of your explanation, I disagree with the item above. 
NT (4.0, no experience with W2K), *does* replace a MBR if it's a 
"standard" DOS or Win95/98 one. BUT it leaves a LILO MBR alone if 
installed AFTER Linux (because it examines the boot code in there 
and "sees" it's not the MS-based code - just guessing) - at least seen 
that several times in my boxes with a FAT16 partition for W95 in 
addition to a NTFS partition each. With that, the LILO entry for 
the FAT(16) partition, that was previously starting W95, invokes 
the NT boot manager starting from the partition boot sector 
after the NT installation, which in turn offers to boot W95 via 
a backup file of the previous boot sector ("bootsect.dos"). 
There's *no need* to reinstall LILO in such a situation - but I 
normally do that anyway to have one config for NT and one for 
W95 using THE SAME bootsector image that NT does (or, at least, 
a copy thereof in Linux's /boot directory (it's safer there - *g*).
I think this is only possible if the W95(a) partition is *FAT16*, 
as in my case, because with W95 B/C or W98's FAT32, there's no 
write access to that partition, which has to be the *active* one 
anyway; so with FAT32, there's only the MBR left to install 
NT's booting "machinery" - but with FAT16, that works just as 
fine with the partition boot sector. With the absence of LILO, 
the user wouldn't see the difference, though. 
Please feel free to correct me, if in turn something I just 
said is wrong. 
To me, the above is quite important - as with my "largest" box, 
LILO has to manage 7 Linux installations, 2xWin95, NT, FreeBSD, 
OpenBSD and SCO OS 5.0.5 off 5 hard disks (2 IDE & 3 SCSI at 
the moment) - and I do doubt any other boot manager could do 
that as flexible as LILO does; I know for sure NT boot manager 
couldn't... ;-). 

Just my (rather 3 than 2) cents 

Juergen

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From: Kheng-Teong Goh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Kernel rebuilt process?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:54:01 +0800

Hi,
I need to know which is the best way to build a kernel from scratch.
And also rebuild the kernel after some complication. This complication
old need to add extra features into the kernel and not modules. If it is
so. Do I still need to make modules?




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