Linux-Misc Digest #520, Volume #25 Tue, 22 Aug 00 00:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Not able to add new partitions for Rh6.1 install (mike)
FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux.... (Arthur Sowers)
Re: Whats the best window manager? (jeff)
Re: How to detect a application Crash (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: Whats the best window manager? (jeff)
Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: Not able to add new partitions for Rh6.1 install (jeff)
XWindow Managers (root)
Re: Timestamp problem with VFAT files. ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: Best Linux Distribution (Tomalak)
Re: Some weird xterm behaviour! ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: Newbie : which Linux distribution? (Richard Steiner)
Re: logitech keyboard problem in VI (David Efflandt)
Re: installed kernel configuration ("Rinaldi J. Montessi")
Re: Possible to restore partition? (Leonard Evens)
Re: why suid'ed shutdown refuses to run? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: backup and restore with cpio?? ("Michael Faurot")
Re: BIOS? ("Rinaldi J. Montessi")
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Not able to add new partitions for Rh6.1 install
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:17:42 -0400
Hi,
I recently added a second drive to a Dell Dimension XPS R400.
It now has: 1. 10GB IBM Primary Master with Win98
2. 15GB IBM Primary Slave. with 9648Mb FAT32.
Drive 2 has 4997Mb unallocated space.
I want to use 3000mb for Redhat 6.1. I started the 6.1 cd by setting
the
bios to boot on the cd. The Redhat install came up and I chose custom
installation. I have tried to add partitions using the add button but,
it keeps rejecting the partitions that I want to add. I tried to add
a 16mb /boot partition and it said too big. It did allow me to add
a 256mb <swap> partition, but I can't add other partitions. What ever
I try to add, it says "partition too big". I was initially planning to
use
a boot floppy so I assume that the 1024 cylinder limit wouldn't come
into play under those conditions. I believe that the program in the
install
that does the partitioning is Disk Druid. Could it be that there is a
bug
in it? I am at a loss at what to do at this point.
Thanks
Mike
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From: Arthur Sowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux....
Date: 22 Aug 2000 02:21:27 GMT
FYI, I'm a very newbie newbie, but have been dabbling with Linux since
Summer of '99 (see footnote 1, below on experience summary). I got into
Linux because I was disgusted with Win9X, by the way.
Mainly I need a wordprocessor and a spreadsheet (something like Excel, if
possible) and I need that to get work done. The OS and tinkering with it
is going to be a long, drawn out hobby for me.
I bought WP8 for Linux (Corel's) at a local Sam's club. I bought Sun's
CD-ROM disk for $10 with StarOffice 5.1 on it (it has versions of SO for
Win98 [and I have one copy installed as a Win98 ap], Linux, Solaris, and
OS/2, by the way), and just this weekend, I decided to spring for Applix
5.0 (an office suite for Linux) at Best Buy (must have been on sale, the
cash register rang it up for $62) to see how well it ran.
All of my boxes are Red Hat 5.2 except one; that one is RH 6.2. Most are
200 mHz, one is 400 mhz. All are 32 MB ram. HDs are 1 gig, or 1 gig
partitions. I have RH 5.2 running on a 486dx-33 with 8 MB of RAM, by the
way. The fvwm window manager comes up rather slowly after I type
"startx" at the prompt, but otherwise is a nice box. Once the window
manager is up and running, the aps-games-utilities run just a little
slowly.
I installed SO and WP on several Linux boxes, and Applix on both a 5.2 and
a 6.2 box.
The Applix install had some glitches. But it launches very fast and exits
very fast. HOWEVER, I had a bunch of windows open, then closed them before
exiting the whole ap and shortly afterwards noticed in the terminal window
that I used to launch the ap a series of warnings regarding "unexpectedly
destroyed windows" AND a 1.5 MB "core" file in my root directory with a
buch of gibberish in it. "core" files suggest that something went wrong
somewhere and that bothered me. I do not see an uninstaller for Applix.
Applix required an upgrade or override of some glibic libraries. I chose
the override route. Its a gtk+ application, whatever that means but it
worried me a little. A launches by typing "applix" at the prompt. The
manuals for Applix are not too bad, but are certainly not thick. They
show, in the "install" booklet, a long list of fixed bugs from ver 4.0,
which is nice. But there is almost nothing there on "trouble-shooting" or
explaining a few things on options & routes of installing the ap.
SO launches (and exits) very slowly but has not given me any
"trouble" like a core file or warning messages anywhere (I have had
crashes under win98 and I have read in a few places now where crashes can
take place in SO with complex operations). The install of SO (now on five
boxes) has always been flawless. As I recall, there is an uninstaller for
SO. SO has a low grade web browser (Id rather use something else) and a
Newsgroup client that crashed on me several times (from Win98, by the
way). The email client worked however. SO is launched by typing
"./soffice" at the prompt. (you can also click on the menu icon on the KDE
desktop). Its nice that you can download SO, for any of the four OSes,
from Sun's website, for free. SO ver 5.2 is on a CD-ROM (with other
aps/games/utilities) for, I think, this month's issue of "Maximum Linux."
WP launches (and exits) faster than SO but slower than A. Its also quite
good and well behaved (i.e. no core files generated, no error messages
generated in the launch terminal screen. WP is just a word processor, but
if you don't need math functions or cell formulas, you can create
"tables" in grids as a low functionality "spreadsheet" in WP. WP launches
by typing "./wp" at the prompt in the "bin" directory. I had a chance to
use the uninstaller in WP8 to remove WP from a directory I did not want it
in and then reinstall it into a directory I did want it in, and the
uninstaller worked flawlessly. No residual files or directories.
I've configured printing for SO and WP8 at least three of the RH 5.2 boxes
and it needs about the same amount of tinkering as for Windows to get a
printer to run.
I expect to spend a fair bit more time evaluating these three packages
before getting set up with one of them with my regular work.
Arthur E. Sowers
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footnote:
I'd like to put in a word for Red Hat 5.2 and 6.2: I've put 5.2 on six
boxes so far, including the slow 486 with 8 MB of ram, without a failure
or glitch (most will boot off their HD, two need a boot disk [the trick I
learned is to make two native partitions, one is a small "/boot" native
partition and the second is a large root "/" partition during the install
setup]). Most other distributions I've tried sometimes crash on install,
or always crash on install. AND, nobody is paying me to say this. I have
no relation with Red Hat or anyone who works there. I always used the
"text-based" install. Sometimes the graphics installs don't work.
I've also had my share of screw-ups with Linux such as getting into stuff
without knowing how to get out of it, or doing stupid things at the
command line. And, otherwise having to reinstall Linux a few times. It
helps to read a good book on Linux/Unix and at least be aware of those
little details that can blow up your install.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: Whats the best window manager?
Date: 22 Aug 2000 02:23:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 21 Aug 2000 16:44:35 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Database <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Whats the best window manager?
>
>What's the most idiotic question asked by people who don't think what
>their question means before asking?
>
>Have you any criteria, or will "the pinkest" suffice as an answer?
>
>Peter
IMHO, if you can't put yourself into a newbie mindset, it's best not to
reply to obviously newbie questions. Probably what the question really
meant was: "I know very little about about window managers. Can anyone
offer some advice and opinions, so that I'll have a basis for beginning
my exploration?" This is not an idiotic question.
-jeff
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to detect a application Crash
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:20:23 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to know how to find out a Application crash/coredump. Basically i
> want to write a utility to do some activities when ever crash occurs.
>
> As of i know the kernel is sending some signals( SIG_SEGV, SIG_ILL,
> SIG_GPE,SIG_ABRT ) while core dump ocurs. In this case, if the
> application which has crashed has trapped these signals, then i cant
> catch. So is there any other way to handle this. Or is there any
> possibility of extending the kernel without recompiling (like plug-in).
>
> Thanks,
>
> N. Sivakumar.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Arrange that your program does an exit(EXIT_SUCCESS) when it exits
normally.
That should be defined in stdlib.h. Then, if your program gets a non-caught
interrupt, the return value will be non-zero. In particular, you may also
wish to examine the system call wait(*int statloc).
--
Jean-David Beyer .~.
Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: Whats the best window manager?
Date: 22 Aug 2000 02:30:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 21 Aug 2000 18:41:32 GMT, Peter Bismuti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Peter T. Breuer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>
>No need to flame, keep this newsgroup friendly and helpful. It isn't that
>stupid of a question, why not contribute some useful information?
>
>I use FVWM2, it is lightweight and fast and seems powerful, but may be
>harder to configure than others. I've heard Gnome is a little unstable,
>so I tried KDE, but it was slow. When you use virtual desktops, there is
>a noticable dealy when clicking on the pager before the new window pops up.
>I found this intolerable so I switched back to FVWM2.
When I originally tried Gnome (with E) a year or so ago, I was turned off by
its lack of stability, and its general klunkiness. On a whim, I recently
tried Helix Gnome, with icewm, and was blown away by the improvement. This
combo is slick, smooth, and stable.
-jeff
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:24:59 -0400
Doug wrote:
> "Marcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I am using Redhat 6.2.
> > If my XWindows hang, but I am sure that other service are still running.
> >
> > So I don't want to re-boot my linux.
> >
> > How can I stop the XWindows and start again ?
> > Also, if I just have 1 linux in the network, is it possible ?
> >
> The good ol' <Ctrl><Alt><BackSpace> usually works.
>
> Doug
But not always. Sometimes it hangs so bad that <Ctrl><Alt><BackSpace> does
nothing. If you are lucky, <Ctrl><Alt><F[1-6]> work. But they usually do not
under these conditions. I had it just lock up completely with a 4-hour job
running in the background. Luckily the CpuMem applet was running OK, so I
could tell when the background job was done. I then gave up and pressed the
panic button. This is a very rare problem. On two machines one of which I
have been running since early 1998, and the other since near the beginning of
this year, this has happened exactly once on each machine.
--
Jean-David Beyer .~.
Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: Not able to add new partitions for Rh6.1 install
Date: 22 Aug 2000 02:46:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:17:42 -0400, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
> I recently added a second drive to a Dell Dimension XPS R400.
>It now has: 1. 10GB IBM Primary Master with Win98
> 2. 15GB IBM Primary Slave. with 9648Mb FAT32.
> Drive 2 has 4997Mb unallocated space.
>
> I want to use 3000mb for Redhat 6.1. I started the 6.1 cd by setting
>the
>bios to boot on the cd. The Redhat install came up and I chose custom
>installation. I have tried to add partitions using the add button but,
>it keeps rejecting the partitions that I want to add. I tried to add
>a 16mb /boot partition and it said too big. It did allow me to add
>a 256mb <swap> partition, but I can't add other partitions. What ever
>I try to add, it says "partition too big". I was initially planning to
>use
>a boot floppy so I assume that the 1024 cylinder limit wouldn't come
>into play under those conditions. I believe that the program in the
>install
>that does the partitioning is Disk Druid. Could it be that there is a
>bug
>in it? I am at a loss at what to do at this point.
I don't use RH, but I assume that Disk Druid is just trying to keep you out
of trouble by ensuring that the entire boot partition is within the 1024 cyl
limit. Does RH installer give you the option to use fdisk? If not, you can
pre-allocate the partition (with a linux floppy, or Partition Magic, or
something similar) and maybe RH will accept it.
-jeff
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:58:57 -0500
From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XWindow Managers
I was fooling around with my windows settings and saw the 'desktop
switching
tool' and thought I'd see what it did. I selected 'Another Level' and
it
starts up with a blank screen and only a term window. NO MENUES. I
can't
change back. I looked in 3 different books I have and could not find
what file
or utility to use to reset it to GNOME. Any suggestions. I appreciate
any
help you can give.
Thank you.
Paul
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Timestamp problem with VFAT files.
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 02:59:42 GMT
Can you give me any more info? I just spent an hour rooting around
RH's website (and Bugzilla) and could come up with nothing close.
Thanks.
Shadoglare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ns4l7$act$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> RedHat lists this as a bug on their web page and describe how to fix
> it - it's at www.redhat.com, under I think the "support" section or
> something similarly named.
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Charles Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They in
> > fact get read/write permission but cannot preserve the file timestamp
> > when copying a file from Linux to the VFAT partition, nor modify
> > the timestamp of the VFAT file.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tomalak)
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distribution
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 02:51:23 GMT
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:50:41 -0400, Jean-David Beyer-valinux
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:Luc Van Bogaert wrote:
:
:I am sorry it has come to this.
:
:I think some of what happens is that there are those who administer Unix
:and Linux systems for a living and after they have heard the same question
:over and over again, and then get it one more time after a hard day, they
:can lose patience.
:
Perhaps, but it was their choice to post a reply.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some weird xterm behaviour!
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:19:22 -0500
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Andrew N. McGuire quoth:
~~ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:27:23 -0500
~~ From: Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: Some weird xterm behaviour!
~~
~~ On 21 Aug 2000, Thomas Dickey quoth:
~~
~~ ~~ Date: 21 Aug 2000 17:32:43 GMT
~~ ~~ From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ ~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ ~~ Subject: Re: Some weird xterm behaviour!
~~ ~~
~~ ~~ Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
~~ ~~ > On 21 Aug 2000, Thomas Dickey quoth:
~~ ~~ > I suppose in the end that does not matter, as xterm still should not
~~ ~~ > do that. I just tried it on Solaris, and the /usr/openwin/bin/xterm
~~ ~~ > on Solaris 7 does not display this behaviour. So what I am "seeing"
~~ ~~ > is a bug.
~~ ~~
~~ ~~ so use another program (MS telnet sounds like what you need)
~~
~~ Good one, resort to sarcasm. That will fix the problem.
~~ If it were for attitudes like, bugs would not be fixed
~~ and programs would never improve.
~~
~~ Don't worry though, I already submitted a bug report with
~~ XFree86.org. But thank you for the sarcastic replies.
OK, so I was dead wrong on this. Thank you again for the explanation
Thomas, and I apologize for making an idiot out of myself.
anm
--
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~ Andrew N. McGuire ~
~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
~ "Plan to throw one away; you will, anyhow." - Frederick P. Brooks, Jr. ~
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Newbie : which Linux distribution?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:52:48 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Luc Van Bogaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:49:55 -0500, Richard Steiner wrote:
>
>>Be prepared for a bit of a culture shock. :-)
>
>I have Linux installed already (went for the Mandrake distribtion,
>without having a real preference for this or any of the others), and
>you've made me curious with your remark. Haven't done much with yet,
>but in what way would you describe this as a culture shock, being used
>to work with OS/2?
For one, there are some things that are defined in OS/2 that are not
defined at all under Linux. It's a LOT more open-ended. For example,
the use of X as the main GUI means you have dozens of choices for your
desktop metaphor, and all of the Linux users you know locally might be
configured quite differently from you, whereas OS/2 only provides one
desktop (the WPS) unless you count fullscreen WinOS2.
Unless you install XFree86/2, of course. :-)
What I was really thinking of, though, was the fact that Linux, unlike
OS/2, is a full-blown multiuser OS which is directly patterned after
UNIX, and which shares a lot of its idiosyncracies. It has a lot more
flexibility in some ways, and newer distros are quite polished, but it
still has some ways of doing things that are difficult for me (coming
from the DOS-Mac-Windows-OS/2-UNIVAC world and not UNIX) to understand.
Also, there will probably be cron jobs running in the background to do
bits of housekeeping (rebuilding the man page database and rolling over
log files, mainly), and people tend to assume that you have a compiler
installed (not true in most other desktop environments).
>One thing that really impresses me is the overall "finish" of a
>distribution like Mandrake and the usability of the system, immediately
>after installation. Had IBM done this kind of work for OS/2, it would
>have helped a great deal...
OS/2 isn't bad out of the box. My only problems revolved around the
network setup stuff, which is pretty weird compared to the UNIX way of
doing things (and that's my opinion after doing OS/2 networking first).
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
Why isn't there another word for thesaurus?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: logitech keyboard problem in VI
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 03:46:32 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:49:49 -0700, nico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hello,
>
> i jsut got a new logitech keyboard for my laptop, (Deluxe 104), very
>basic one.
>i use a splitter to attach both my kboard and mouse, and it works great.
>but when i am in VI, the numeric pad coes not respond and instead of
>printing digits, it prints letters like ,x,z,y,t,s,...
>
>
>anyone who got that problem solved?
I have a Logitech wireless keyboard with wireless mouse plugged into a
splitter into the single PS/2 port on my Sony laptop. And the keypad
seems to work fine in vi (Mandrake 7.0). It prints numbers if NumLock is
on and acts as cursor keys, etc. if not.
The NumLock button does light the LED on both the computer and the
wireless transmitter/receiver.
Note: the Belkin PS/2 splitter was molded backwards, so I have to plug the
keyboard into M and the mouse into K, but with that reversed I think it
refused to boot due to keyboard error.
Another Note: Reflection in Windows (for accessing HP3000) seemed to
default to numlock "on" which made certain letters appear as numbers (the
laptop keypad overlays alpha characters). I somehow had to disable that
in the Reflection program. So it does sound like you have a keyboard
mapping problem (see if the letters correspond with the numbers on the
laptop numeric keypad).
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: installed kernel configuration
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:55:24 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to see how the kernel on my Dell Redhat 6.2 distro was
> compiled? (I need to make sure that CONFIG_MODULES = y, CONFIG_SOUND =
> y/m, CONFIG_SOUND_* = n) If this is so, I don't have to recompile it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Depends. If you used an rpm, look for a /configs/kernel directory
in /usr/src/linux and pick your flavor and check the .config with a
text editor. Can be kind of boring. Rpm's usually come with
everything loaded in. BTW, why not just check your /lib/modules
directory?
If the kernel was compiled specifically for the machine your on, cd
/usr/src/linux and check for a .config file in that directory. If
there is one do a make xconfig and take a look at the appropriate
boxes. Don't save when exiting unless you really know what to do
next. You don't want to change anything by mistake.
--
Rinaldi]$
The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who, in time of
moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Possible to restore partition?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:39:05 -0500
MH wrote:
>
> I want to expand my /usr partition. I've used the "dump" utility to
> backup /usr and /home to a remote system. I am assuming I can restore
> /usr and /home with "dump restore".
>
> My plan is to delete the /usr and /home partitions, then recreate
> them--with /usr being larger than before, and /home being smaller than
> before. I am assuming that I can perform the restore from the command
> line--in fact, will have to--since the X Windows files ordinarily
> located in /usr and /home will obviously not exist in the new partitions
> until they have been restored.
>
> Is there any problem with this plan?
>
> TIA for your comments/suggestions.
>
> --
> "The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal."
>
> --Aristotle
You can't do what you propose with a system running from the
disk. You may be able to do the dump, but you will have to
do the repartitioning and the restore from a rescue system
running in a ramdisk in memory. There are several such, and
one good one is Tom's root boot disk. But the last time I
checked he was using a very old kernel, so it might not be
consistent with your system. In principle you can use the
RedHat installation CD to launch a rescue system, but it may
be somewhat limited. The 6.1 Cd was essentially useless except
for a real expert, but the 6.2 is supposed to be better.
There are several others out there.
The problem with a rescue system is that it may not have the
restore command in its repertoire. It almost certainly has
tar though. I've actually done what you want on my system,
and I used tar. But make sure the version of tar you have
supports the options you use when making the tar archive.
It is probably a good idea to back up the root file system,
however you do it, from a rescue system in a ramdisk. Otherwise
you may end up backing up /proc, which you don't want to do.
While I am not the most knowledgeable Linux expert around, I
have a lot of experience, and I would say this venture used
all of my smarts to accomplish. I also planned it very carefully
and tested various parts before committing myself.
I backed up to another partition which had room and wasn't going
to be changed. If you are going to back up to a remote system,
you have to be sure your rescue system has the capability to
set an IP address and route. Tom's root boot disk does. And
of course you have to know how to do it.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: why suid'ed shutdown refuses to run?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 03:52:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When you run a SUID shell script, the following sequence of events
takes
> place:
>
> 0. calling shell fork()s
> 1. child shell assumes root privileges, exec()s
> 2. child shell begins to execute the script as root
>
> There is a relatively easy-to-exploit time lag existing between steps
1
> and 2. A malicious person can use that time lag to replace the script
> with a series of arbitrary commands. This particular vulnerability
> doesn't exist in SUID binaries.
If the script is SUID, we just souldn't allow anyone to modify it.
How can one replace the script with arbitrary commands?
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Before you buy.
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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: backup and restore with cpio??
Date: 22 Aug 2000 03:39:11 GMT
Douglas Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I am getting a truncating inode number when I try to back up some file
: systems and cannot seem to restore any files. I suspect that it is not
: backing up the files for what ever reason, can someone give me some
: insight into this?
Try using the option "-H newc". From cpio(1):
newc The new (SVR4) portable format, which supports
file systems having more than 65536 i-nodes.
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From: "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: BIOS?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:01:22 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm still struggling to get my Dell sound card (SB Live!) to work. I've
> tried everything, and I'm now about to recompile the kernel (for the
> first time in my life) Anyways, the sound card driver installation
> instructions require, amoung other things, that
> <quote>
> "PnP-compatible OS installed" option in BIOS must be disabled.
> </quote>
>
> What can I do to make sure this requirement is satisfied?
>
> Thanks a bunch!
>
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Reboot, hit DEL or F1 or whatever gets you into cmos. Hunt around
for that entry and change as required. Usually page-up page down
toggles. Save and exit.
Do you know what driver your sound card takes?
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Rinaldi]$
The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who, in time of
moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante
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