Linux-Misc Digest #576, Volume #25 Sun, 27 Aug 00 05:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: ALSA !? Angry Latins Stomp Ants??? (Pete Zaitcev)
dbmopen version woes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Best Linux Distribution ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Darren Winsper)
Re: Terminal prog for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Bug in dynamic linker (Charles Ju)
Re: dbmopen version woes ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
VIA Integrated Sound Blaster Pro Woes (Dave King)
Re: Advice sought, (new user coming from OS/2) (Richard Steiner)
Re: Advice sought, (new user coming from OS/2) (Richard Steiner)
Re: Firewall for Linux ("Kai")
Re: Dell PowerEdge 1300 / RAID1 / AIC7890 (Markus Kossmann)
changing the keymap (Josef)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Zaitcev)
Subject: Re: ALSA !? Angry Latins Stomp Ants???
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:16:32 GMT
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 04:05:40 GMT, Scott Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> alsa's confusin me!
> it says my sound card is supported, but it dont have the module for
> it! ... im totally confoosticated...
> any help ?
> AOpen AW724, yamaha ds3 driver under windoze...
> io1 is 220-22f, io2 is 330-331, irq 11, mem e4800000-e4807fff
> anyone know a module that will work, or how i should compile one of my
> own?
Use ymfpci. BTW, I am porting it into OSS
--Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dbmopen version woes
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:26:27 GMT
I have some script originally written in Perl 4 that use dbmopen
to tie a hash to a file. No "use" statement, so I guess I got
ndbm.
This is on a RedHat 6.1 Linux system.
Recently a cron job updated my Perl with
perl-5.00503-12.i386.rpm and now my script won't open the database.
I'm not exactly sure what version Perl I had before - whether I had
the original Perl distributed with RH6.1 or one I installed from
a tarball. I have tried a couple of old binaries saved elsewhere
with no luck.
I have backups of the database but can't read them either ...
I have some text dumps I can convert but they're a few months old.
Any ideas for converting the old database files ?
I can see the contents with "strings" but it's not that easy
to restore that way.
--
Andrew Daviel
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distribution
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:37:37 -0500
On 25 Aug 2000, Peter Bismuti quoth:
~~ Date: 25 Aug 2000 18:31:04 GMT
~~ From: Peter Bismuti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: Best Linux Distribution
~~
~~
~~ Asking the question
~~
~~ "what is the best window manager" (or best whatever....)
~~
~~ is just an abbreviation for the question
~~
~~ "I know nothing about WMs, what are some of the more popular WMs and which ones
~~ do people like and why? What are the strengths and weeknesses of the different
WMs?".
However, it can also be argued that:
"what is the best window manager" (or best whatever....)
is just an abbreviation for the question:
"I do not know how to search the Deja archives to see if this
question has ever been asked before. I also do not recall ever
reading the posts at news.announce.newusers, if I had I would
have known that one should lurk in a NG before asking questions.
I also do not know what RFC 1855 is, or why it was composed.
Furthermore, I know how to use search engines, but I would rather
ask people the same question that countless others before me
have asked. Now, darn it, tell me what the best window manager is."
~~ The meaning of the question is clear, it is not a stupid one at all,
~~ and often lead to interesting and informative discussions.
The meaning of the question is not clear, you have mutated it to fit
your argument, as I have now done. The answer to the question is
very clear:
Only trying all window managers will tell you what the best one
for you is. There is no substitute for experience, research comes
close, but falls just short.
~~ Some people are just angry and enjoy flaming. Instead of using their time
~~ and energy to be helpful, they'd prefer to spend it being nasty. They probably
~~ use the middle finger while driving regularly. Best just to ignore them since
~~ a flame war is just what gets their juices flowing. Ignore them and they will
~~ go away so that this newsgroup will be friendly and helpful.
I do not think so little of people here that I would say:
"Some people are just angry and enjoy flaming."
I would instead ask you, which question gets precedence for first
answer?
1. What is the best Linux distribution?
2. I changed roots shell by mistake, how do I recover?
3. How do I tell if X is running in a script?
4. I can't unmount my /cdrom drive, etc, etc, etc.
To me, the first question falls into the category of "non-urgent,
not really important, I can answer this question myself". The second
question requires almost immediate attention, the third is simple,
but could be somewhat interesting. The fourth is a classic newbie
mistake most likely, but should be answered (i.e [ `pwd` = '/cdrom' ]).
So, tell me, is it not more helpful to answer the questions that
require more attention first? Is it also not helpful to point out
that someone has asked a dumb question? I think it is, I don't flame
but I am certainly not 'politically correct', nor will I ever be.
Some people have to get a slightly thicker skin. If someone says:
"That is a dumb question!", consider why the question may be dumb.
If the question has been asked and answered 10's of times, or is
so subjective that there is no answer, then it may be a waste of
peoples time to ask the question, and that may be why the question
was called dumb. I had a Gunny who I would ask questions to all the
time, he used to say:
"I don't know, you tell me!"
almost invariably at first. I then realized that I should have
been researching the answer to my own question, and come to him
only when I hit a brick wall, but yet had a clue. Usenet netiquette
has almost always dictated a similar approach, something like:
1. Search Deja
2. Use google
3. Look through books
4. Ask a friend
5. Try some guesses
6. If I still have no idea, then ask, but ask intelligently!
This lets experts in a NG concentrate on more urgent, or perhaps
tougher questions, and at the same time, ups the quality of the
discussions. Since the newbies are good Netizens, and are lurking
then they can gain something from the discussions, and when the time
is right, can contribute something useful. If the maintainer of the
Linux FAQ reads this, can we get "What is the best...?", put in the
FAQ, please?
Best Wishes,
anm
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~ Andrew N. McGuire ~
~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
~ "Plan to throw one away; you will, anyhow." - Frederick P. Brooks, Jr. ~
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: 27 Aug 2000 06:11:58 GMT
On 26 Aug 2000 10:36:22 -0600, Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With bundles, you can pop in a CD and drag it to wherever you want to
> put it, and it will all work. I hope Apple hasn't screwed them up in
> MacOS X, but we'll see.
RISC OS used bundles which were called Applications. ROXFiler
(rox.sourceforge.net) has support for a similar system.
--
Darren Winsper (El Capitano)
ICQ #8899775 - AIM: Ikibawa - MSNIM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stellar Legacy project member - http://stellarlegacy.sourceforge.net
DVD boycotts. Are you doing your bit?
This message was typed before a live studio audience.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Terminal prog for linux
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 06:13:58 GMT
In article <6GZp5.7821$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:01:34 +0000, Slip Gun
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Back in the days of Win 3.1, there was a program called terminal.exe
> >which allowed you to talk to your modem and dial into bbs's. Could
> >someone give me the name of a good 'terminal' program for linux? Any
> >help appreciated.
>
> I've always prefered Kermit, but due to licensing problems,
> it's no longer distributed with most Linux systems. IMHO,
> Columbia's licensing policy has almost killed Kermit.
I believe your information is a bit dated. C-Kermit 7.0 is included
is several major Linux distributions and has always been available
for free use by downloading from the Kermit Project web site.
See http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/licensing.html for information
on the state of C-Kermit licensing.
But in this case I'm not sure that C-Kermit is what the original
poster of this thread is looking for since C-Kermit does not provide
any terminal emulation and instead relies on the Xterm window or
console for terminal support.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:54:08 -0400
From: Charles Ju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Bug in dynamic linker
Kevin Henry wrote
> I have a similar situation problem, with RH 6.2 on a Sun Ultra 5. What's
> your platform?
I'm using Dell Inspiron 5000, RedHat 6.2.
I found some references of the mentioned error in internet search, but no
solution yet.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dbmopen version woes
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:28:09 -0500
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
~~ Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:26:27 GMT
~~ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~ Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl, comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Followup-To: comp.lang.perl
~~ Subject: dbmopen version woes
[ comp.lang.perl is dead ]
~~ I have some script originally written in Perl 4 that use dbmopen
[ snip ]
~~ Recently a cron job updated my Perl with
~~ perl-5.00503-12.i386.rpm and now my script won't open the database.
[ snip ]
~~ I have backups of the database but can't read them either ...
~~ I have some text dumps I can convert but they're a few months old.
~~
~~ Any ideas for converting the old database files ?
~~ I can see the contents with "strings" but it's not that easy
~~ to restore that way.
First, as you have not posted any code, or any information about the
structure of these binary files, except that you 'guess' that they
are NDBM, how do you expect people to help you? I will take a stab
in the dark here and say make sure the top line of your script looks
like:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
This will enable warnings, and may inform you of previously
depracated, now illegal syntax. I don't even want to know why you
upgrade Perl through cron, but let me say that I don't think that
is a very good practice. Before uprgading Perl you may want to
use a test machine, or at least upgrade manually after planning a
backout procedure, and test your scripts manually. Another thing
I will recommend, (again, a wild stab), is:
use strict;
This makes many bad Perl programming practices a compile-time error.
As for restoring your old files, do you know the stucture of the files?
If so you could probably fashion your own script using:
$/ = "\0"
to change the record separator. Then using the slurp operator <>
to read variable lenght text records, and using read() and unpack()
to read and translate fixed length binary records. Again, this is
all a wild guess.
Regards,
anm
--
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~ Andrew N. McGuire ~
~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
~ "Plan to throw one away; you will, anyhow." - Frederick P. Brooks, Jr. ~
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From: Dave King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VIA Integrated Sound Blaster Pro Woes
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:42:31 -0500
Hello, folks. I'm running RedHat and am currently looking to make the
Big Transition from Windows to the Penguin, and things worked perfectly
fine on my former computer/former motherboard/former sound card in terms
of Linux. However, after upgrading (finally) my former computer from a
P200 to a P600, I suddenly find out that Linux doesn't like the sound
card that's come integrated into the motherboard. Everything else in
the installation works fine.
The Important Specs:
Abit VA6 Motherboard (VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipset)
Features: Integrated Hardware Sound Blaster Pro AC '97 Digital Audio
Controller
P600
64 MB RAM
There's a lot more, but is largely irrelevant to the situation at hand.
Anyhow, when I attempt to run sndconfig to get my sound working, it
detects that I have a "VIA technologies | VT82C686 [Apollo Super AC
97/Audio]", sure, fine, no problem. It then tries to play a sound
sample, which I can't hear, and then any further attempts to run
sndconfig after that don't even get to the sound sample: instead, it
begins complaining about /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/via82cxxx.o, first
claiming that the "device or resource busy", then "insmod", then
"failed", then "insmod sound-slot-0 failed" - each of these messages is
on its own line with the file and it's full directory before it.
Searching through the RedHat archives for their mailing list has shown
this is a problem that other people have, but the advice they give
(adding the line options sb support = 1 to conf.modules doesn't seem to
help) hasn't yet helped me. Admittedly I don't know RedHat/Linux
intimately (yet), so I might be missing an integral configuration step;
however, I can't seem to figure out what it is. Any help as to stepts
to take from here would be very much appreciated - most of the guides
online haven't been really helpful (though they have in the past, with
other issues).
Please send your responses to the newsgroup, if possible - I assume it
is, because you're reading it here and now.
Thank you very much in advance.
Dave
Remove the nospam from the email to email and such and whatnot, you know
the drill ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Advice sought, (new user coming from OS/2)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:27:20 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
spake unto us, saying:
>On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:16:14 -0400 Robert Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Note: I've decided to use GNOME as my desktop environment. . .
>
>Tell the truth: is this because IBM has endorsed it, oh former OS/2
>user? :-)
I suspect you'll find that very few OS/2 users give a rats ass about
what IBM recommends. :-)
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
A good organizer is one who is careful to plan ahe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Advice sought, (new user coming from OS/2)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:15:39 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Robert Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>I've been toying with Linux on and off for a while, but my primary OS
>has been OS/2.
That's still the case with me (I use Linux a lot, but OS/2 as my main
desktop), but there are many folks who've come over to Linux from OS/2.
>1. I currently have a 300 mb partition devoted exclusively to the OS/2
> system (together with the Java JDK). I keep all my applications
> and data on a separate partition. For Linux,
> a. how much disk space is needed for the base system
Depends on the distro. Also, the definition of "base operating system"
for a Linux distro is quite different as it still assumes the presence
of a compile and such for compiling kernels.
Use http://www.deja.com to search for recommendations for partition
sizes and such. I'd recommend a GB or so (possibly split into /home,
/var, /usr/local, and / (and perhaps others) for starters, at least
when installing the "major" desktop versions like Mandrake, SuSE, Red
Hat, or whatever. They include a LOT of useful software...
> b. what is the most reasonable way to separate applications and data
> from the base OS. For instance, would it make sense to put /home
> and /usr on their own partition as a way to acheive that?
Many people do that. I don't, but I'm weird that way. :-)
>2. Is it feasible to use an HPFS partition for data and/or Linux
> applications during a transition period?
I would use one or more ext2fs partition(s) for data on the Linux side,
since the native Linux filesystem supports Linux user/group/world file
permissons whilke FAT and HPFS do not.
>3. Is there a transparent way of dealing with the text file end-of-line
> difference between OS/2 (which is like Windows) and Linux (which is
> like UNIX)? I will probably be using XEmacs as my text editor.
Since I treat my OS/2 and Linux installations as separate entities, I
don't see crossover of text files all that often. Some text editors
like pico (bundled with the pine e-mail reader) will automatically
convert files to the EOL format of the OS it is running in currently.
>4. Is there a Linux equivalent to extended attributes.
Not yet.
>5. The FM/2 file manager I use under OS/2 seems to be more customizable
> and more powerful in some ways than anything I've ever seen under
> Linux (or any other OS).
I know what you mean -- I've been an FM/2 user for several years.
There are a number of filemanagers for X. Take a look on Freshmeat
(http://freshmeat.net) to see what's available. I tend to use MC (the
Midnight Commander) a lot, both in text-mode and in X.
>6. OS/2 runs fine on an old P90 laptop with 40 MB of ram. I've tried
> running Linux on such a machine but Linux (running GNOME) seems to
> require more horsepower. I won't give up GNOME.
Larger "desktop environments" like GNOME and KDE are somewhat heavier
in their resource requirements than more traditional X window managers
like icewm, AfterStep, or mlvwm.
If you're dead-set on using GNOME, you'll probably want to purchase
more memory for your box.
I'll leave the rest of the questions because I don't have good answers
for you, and I'm supposed to be asleep! :-)
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
Ni! :-)
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From: "Kai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Firewall for Linux
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:00:02 -0700
I just installed pmfirewall from www.pmfirewall.com . The install script
just askes you a few questions to set up the firewall. It took me several
tries to get it work. Make sure to read the README and other documentation
first. The mistake I made was not enabling port 6000( for X server) and
7101(for true type font server). That caused KDE not running. you may also
need to exclude some ports that are reqired some internet applications. For
example, if you use ICQ, you need to exclude port "4000".
Good luck
Kai
"Patrick Lambe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:JXNo5.1790$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Jason Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8nvg72$oiu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to install a firewall on my Linux box. Does anyone have any
> > suggestions?
> > I am a newbie for this and I want to know which one is good...
>
> You might want to check out the book building linux and openBSD firewalls,
> probably tells you more than you want to know right now, but it will make
> you think about what you want out of your firewall, which as others have
> said is probably the most difficult part of building any firewall.
>
> P. (Considering how frequently I recommend this book, I ought to be on
> commission ;o)
>
>
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 1300 / RAID1 / AIC7890
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 08:50:04 +0200
Dan Trainor wrote:
>
> Hello
> Today, I tried to update the kernel from the default RH6.2 kernel
> (2.2.14-50) to 2.2.16. Everything went fine during the compile and install,
> and I got no errors, which really baffels me. WHen I tried rebooting with
> that new kernel, it almost gets done loading, but then stalls with this
> error message:
>
> request_module[block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted
> VFS: Cannot open root device 8:01
> Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 8:01
>
Well , the aic driver driver was loaded as module from the initrd in
the original RH setup.
Either you need to rebuild the initrd with the new driver module from
2.2.16.
Or you compile the driver into your new kernel and disable the the use
of the the old initrd in your lilo.conf .
--
Markus Kossmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:01:16 +0200
From: Josef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: changing the keymap
Hi all!
How can I change the keymap under Linux?
TIA
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