Linux-Misc Digest #614, Volume #25 Tue, 29 Aug 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: tape drives (David C.)
Re: Script from crontab doesn't work. (Andreas Kahari)
How To Configure LILO ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Need Web Info On Linux OK Hardware ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
How do I get the PID of a login shell? (Niclas Ridefjord)
Re: Restaurant Booking System (Ian Briggs)
Netscape Sucks, I need another option. ("Gabe")
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Bob Hauck)
Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option. (Luc Bergeron)
Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option. ("Rinaldi J. Montessi")
Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option. (Grant Edwards)
Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option. (Florian E.J. Fruth)
Re: Any Kernel books ? (Dave Brown)
Re: opengl on sgi linux machines? (Arthur Corliss)
Netscape and video/x-ms-asf ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option. (Roger Blake)
Re: LILO Died - Partition Not Found (Brian)
Re: Graphs program ! (Robert Love)
Re: Script from crontab doesn't work. (-ljl-)
Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands, ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: Headless X86 Linux system (Peter Mitchell)
Re: over aliasing of ls on default Mandrake 7.0 user setup (-ljl-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: tape drives
Date: 29 Aug 2000 17:23:13 -0400
dave frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> can anyone suggest a good quality tape drive that will work well under
> linux - in particular suse linux.
Anything that's SCSI-2 (or SCSI-3) compliant should work, even with no
special drivers. (Although you may want a driver if your drive has a
feature that the generic SCSI-tape drivers don't support.)
I realize that SCSI tape drives cost more than ATAPI drives. That's
unfortunate. I can't say how well an ATAPI tape drive may or may not
work, since I've never used one. I have used several different SCSI
tape drives, and all have worked fine with the generic SCSI-tape drive
that Linux comes with.
Don't worry about the price of a SCSI card. If you get an inexpensive
drive, it will use the older 10M/s SCSI standard. You can get 10M SCSI
cards for pretty cheap these days.
If you get a high-performance drive, it will probably use Ultra-, Ultra2
or Ultra160 SCSI. In order to take advantage of the speed, you'll need
a high-performance SCSI card. They will probably cost between $100 and
$300.
-- David
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Subject: Re: Script from crontab doesn't work.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 29 Aug 2000 23:33:32 +0100
In article <8oh37u$13b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari) wrote:
>> In article <LYQq5.78513$Kw2.700974@flipper>,
>> Sjoerd Langkemper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >But it works on the command line, so I don't think Lynx is the
>problem.
>
>> Lynx needs a "working terminal" to be able to start up. You have a
>> "working terminal" when you run the script from the command line, but
>> not when cron is running the script (I guess the $TERM variable is set
>> to "unknown").
>>
>> If you really want to use Lynx in your script (overkill), try using it
>> with the "-term=vt100" option (see man page).
>
>This does _not_ work. I tried:
> mm hh * * * lynx -term=vt100 www.siue.edu
>got "Your terminal lacks ... the cursor"
Oh, you should still use the -source option and redirect the output
somewhere...
/A
--
Andreas Kähäri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>.
All junk e-mail will be reported to the appropriate authorities.
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How To Configure LILO
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:07:47 GMT
Hello all,
I have a few questions on how to configure LILO.
I recently installed Windows NT Workstation on my
computer; however, the problem is that because of
LILO, I cannot fully complete the Windows NT
Workstation installation.
Here are questions I'd like to ask.
1. How can I disable LILO temporarly?
I have to disable LILO temporary; otherwise, the
NT Workstation installation cannot be completed.
By the way, just don't tell me how to disable LILO.
I also need to know how to enable LILO as well! :)
2. How can I configure LILO?
The Red Hat Package Manager installed LILO when I
installed Linux on my machine. Since the Red Hat
Package Manager took care of the installation process,
I really don't know how to configure LILO by myself.
The following describes some of the information about the
hard drive:
1. There is one hard drive and it has three OSes
I had installed NT Server and Linux, and then installed
NT Workstation. (Everything was fine until I installed
NT Workstation.)
2. The following is the current "lilo.conf" file from /etc/lilo.conf,
which needs to be updated
lilo.conf
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35-1
label=linux
root=/dev/hda5
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=NT
table=/dev/hda
3. Current disk partitions information from Disk Druid
| Mount Point Device Requested Actual Type
| hda1 2447M 2447M OS/2 HPES <--NT server
| hda5 2447M 2447M Linux native
| hda6 62M 62M Linux swap
| hda7 2447M 2447M DOS 16-bit >=32 <--NT workstation
|
|
| Drive Summaries
| Drive Geom [C/H/S] Total Used Free
| hda [1245/255/63] 9766M 7404M 2362M [#######]
Please let me know how to configure LILO. Thanks in advance!
alea
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need Web Info On Linux OK Hardware
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:38:26 GMT
Hello all,
I am looking for several web sites on Linux hardware compatibility
sites. Since I am planning to build a Linux-only computer, I would
like to know what hardware components are okay to use. By the
way, I have searched it on the web, but the number of hits are so
many. . .
Anyway, thanks in advance.
alea
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From: Niclas Ridefjord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: How do I get the PID of a login shell?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:04:32 GMT
Hi all!
I want to get the PID's of all logged in users login shells. I belive
that on some platforms one could use 'who' for this but that does n't
seem to work under Linux. Does someone know a way get the PID under
Linux?
/Niclas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Restaurant Booking System
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:43:07 +0100
Darren Paxton wrote:
:I work for a restaurant chain based in Glasgow, Scotland, and we would like
:to introduce some form of online restaurant booking system to our website.
I have vague memories of seeing some kind of pizza-shop software -- I
think at Linuxberg or somewhere like that. I've no idea what it does.
Ian
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From: "Gabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:16:19 -0700
Hi.
I'm a new Linux user. The best thing about Windows is Internet Explorer,
because frankly, Netscape sucks. It's slow, buggy, and doesn't display pages
correctly.
I need another option besides Lynx. Is there another browser I can use in X
that comes highly recommended?
Gabe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:43:44 GMT
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 04:09:06 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 02:28:10 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> >> You've got it exactly backwards. Raw storage is just numbered blocks
>> >> on the disk. Filesystems are an abstraction created by the OS.
>>
>> >No, you have it backwards. Where is the OS when your computer is off?
>>
>> In a pile of bits on the hard disk.
>
>So, your OS is in storage. And Obviously that storage can be changed, so
>long as the reasonable set of changes possible are documented.
Sure, certainly. And being able to do this correctly is tantamount to
re-implementing the filesystem layer of your OS.
>All that about how you would have to stop the OS to manage it. Give
>that up too. Surely you can figure out at least one way around that.
>I can think of several, depending on the OS.
Given the agressive caching done by modern operating systems, it is not
a trivial problem to change the filesystem out from under them without
causing inconsistencies between what the operating system's idea of the
filesystem is and what it really is. And if that happens, your system
is toast. This sort of thing can probably be done, but not trivially
and yes the method would depend on the OS. I thought we were trying to
get away from that.
>Suppose the hard disk crashes. I can buy another, and assuming I can
>lay my hands on all my CDs, I can rebuild my machine yet again (losing
>only my unqiue work, if I failed to transfer it too to some external
>storage). And I supply all the answers to all the decision points yet
>one more time.
I've had hard disk crashes and not ever had to reinstall using the
standard installers that make you answer questions. Boot up from
floppy, partition and format the disk, restore from the most recent
backup. Reboot. Done. But then, I don't use Windows.
>Are you really saying no standard form, with a single separate install
>facility for a given computer system can be reasonably define that is
>equivilant to running a bunch of installs off a set of CDs?
I don't think I said it was impossible. I think I said that it was
much more difficult that you seem to think it is. You are describing
abstractions and just ignoring the nitty-gritty implementation details
that make it complicated to actually do. If you think it is worth what
might be years of effort, well, then you are free to start work. If
you come back in six months with a prototype that does a subset of what
you want and it shows promise, then some folks might actually want to
help you. That's how it works.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: Luc Bergeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:49:57 -0400
Gabe wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'm a new Linux user. The best thing about Windows is Internet Explorer,
> because frankly, Netscape sucks. It's slow, buggy, and doesn't display pages
> correctly.
>
> I need another option besides Lynx. Is there another browser I can use in X
> that comes highly recommended?
>
> Gabe
the worst thing about winshit is explorer and the best thing about linux is the
netscape
implementation.
NETSCAPE RULES
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From: "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:52:39 -0400
Gabe wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I'm a new Linux user. The best thing about Windows is Internet Explorer,
> because frankly, Netscape sucks. It's slow, buggy, and doesn't display pages
> correctly.
>
> I need another option besides Lynx. Is there another browser I can use in X
> that comes highly recommended?
>
> Gabe
Maybe linux isn't for you?
--
Rinaldi]$
Here in Florida, we have a billion-dollar plan to teach third-grade
reading. We call it the 12th grade. (Stolen from Jay Leno)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:56:30 GMT
In article <8ohd1r$3qa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gabe wrote:
>Hi.
>
>I'm a new Linux user. The best thing about Windows is Internet Explorer,
>because frankly, Netscape sucks. It's slow, buggy, and doesn't display pages
>correctly.
For what values of "correctly?"
>I need another option besides Lynx. Is there another browser I can use in X
>that comes highly recommended?
lynx
--
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at CLOCK just went off... It
visi.com has noiseless DOZE FUNCTION
and full kitchen!!
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From: Florian E.J. Fruth <fejf@gmx*/dev/null*.de>
Subject: Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 01:11:14 +0200
In article <8ohd1r$3qa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi.
>
> I'm a new Linux user. The best thing about Windows is Internet Explorer,
> because frankly, Netscape sucks. It's slow, buggy, and doesn't display pages
> correctly.
>
> I need another option besides Lynx. Is there another browser I can use in X
> that comes highly recommended?
>
> Gabe
you're right - in one point: netscape sucks BUT IE sucks most !
use opera ! (www.opera.com)
at the moment there's only an alpha release of the linux version - and
alpha means alpha - or beta say pre-alpha...
fejf
--
the backup of my harddisk only takes the half time it
did yesterday. i started to pipe it to /dev/null
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Any Kernel books ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Aug 2000 18:10:20 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michel Marcon wrote:
>Hi
>
>Before buying books, any one has an advice on those:
>
>"Linux core kernel commentary" by S.E.Maxwell
>"Understanding the LInux kernel" by M.Cesati and D.P.Bovet
>"Linux TCP/IP stacks commentary" by S.T.Satchell and H.B.J.CLifford
>
>I'm searching something like the old "Design of UNIX OS" by MJ.Bach
>(which was excellent..)
I can't comment on those, but I found reading the "Kernel Guide" on
the Linux Documentation Project web page very interesting... fairly
high level, though.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Corliss)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sgi.admin
Subject: Re: opengl on sgi linux machines?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:13:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 29 Aug 2000 13:45:34 -0400, Thor Lancelot Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>Ahh, so here we change the argument. It's no longer "intel/amd smokes mips
>>in pure cpu performance" (which we all know is ludicrous) but all about price
>>per performance. Nice switch. BTW, 21264 are more kin of the MIPs than x86,
>>bringing them into an argument to defend "intel/amd smoking mips" is
>>intellectually dishonest.
>
>I have no interest in your religious war.
It's not a religious war, it's about accuracy and honesty. The original
argument was that 'intel smokes mips', which is provably false. You appeared
to change the argument to price-per-performance once the original supposition
became untenable. Don't blame me for calling you on it.
>As I pointed out before, in response to the original poster's pointing out
>that for many floating point codes "MIPS MHz" are worth about 2-3X
>"Intel MHz" (gee, why don't we argue about VUPS or Meaningless Indicators of
>Processor Speed?), at the bleeding edge as well as in the more established
>portion of each vendor's product line, the Intel products do, in fact, run
>at about 2-3X the clock rate of the MIPS parts.
>
>I have absolutely no quibble with your assertion that for many floating-point
>codes, almost any vendor's top-of-the-line RISC will trounce x86. Hell,
>until comparatively recently even *Intel*'s RISC chips did. (i860 Paragon,
>anyone? Gotta love that explicit instruction pairing!). If you want to
>rant and rave because I also pointed out that I have trouble justifying the
>cost of any product I can actually *put* a top-of-the-line MIPS CPU into
>when I have many choices including other RISC processors (e.g. 21264, G4) and
>the commodity Intel processors that let me buy several boxes for the cost of
>the SGI, fine. Rant and rave. I'm not happy with the situation either. If
>it makes you feel better to blame the problem on me and call me
>"intellectually dishonest", fine, do so.
Look, I run the whole gamut of chips here, Intel, AMD, PA-RISC, RS/6000,
Alphas, SGIs, and Sparcs. Every chip has it's place. Intel obviously makes a
commodity component, but for anyone to claim that it is on par with higher end
boxes is completely unsupportable. I'm sorry, but cranking up the clock speed
to compensate for an inadequate architecture hardly supports 'intel smoking
mips', no matter how cheap they do it. Even more ironic is the fact that such
tank circuit tricks only manages them to get on par with what high-end boxes
are doing, *not* smoking them.
Note that I didn't call you intellectually dishonest for holding an opposing
view, but for supporting 'intel smokes mips' and using *other* RISC
architectures to bolster the claim. If anything, it proves that there *are*
cheap RISC architectures that can do things that CISC chips and hybrids are
years away from.
Furthermore, you conveniently avoided the true economics of the situation.
Place an Intel box in any capacity that you would typically put a big iron in,
and not only will you need *many* more of the Intel boxes, but you'll have a
lot more work to do administratively. Factor in the cost of quality hardware
just to approach the levels of reliability (that hardware really doesn't vary
much in costs across platforms) of the big irons, and I'll bet you that your
TCO is higher.
Ultimately, I don't think I buy that Intel's more economical for data
wharehousing or any other enterprise function. I'm sure there's quite a few
here with experience to counter it, in fact.
>Personally, I'll be doing what I have to to provide my users with the level
>of performance they require in a way that fits within the confines of the
>budget they give me. If you operate under some other set of constraints and
>can buy whatever hardware you have an emotional attachment to (and make no
>mistake, I do love the O200 under my desk!), lucky you.
Ironically, most of my equipment is purchased second hand, but even then I'm
amazed at what this hardware is capable of compared to Intel's latest
generation crap. Everything, right down to the chassis, seems to be built to
quality standards way beyond anything in the x86 world. And guess what? The
cost gap narrows considerably then, but reliability and stability goes up. I
know my users appreciate *that*.
--
--Arthur Corliss
Programmer/Administrator
Gallant Technologies (http://www.gallanttech.com/)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Netscape and video/x-ms-asf
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:11:54 GMT
Netscape 4.73 on Linux (Caldera 2.4) says it doesn't
know about video/x-ms-asf files even though I have
added that mime type. Anyone seen (and dealt with)
this before.
Frustrated in Falls Church
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Subject: Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:28:42 GMT
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:16:19 -0700, Gabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I need another option besides Lynx. Is there another browser I can use in X
>that comes highly recommended?
One possibility is to run Windoze under Linux as an application,
then you can run Explorer and other MS stuff. See:
http://win4lin.com
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO Died - Partition Not Found
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:37:34 -0700
Leonard Evens wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> >
> > > Have you tried installing an updated version of LiLo? I remember Slackware 3.4
> > > used to bomb out on me, with the same thing.
> > > http://judi.greens.org/lilo/download.shtml
> > > This new version avoids the 1024 cylinder thing, afaik, which also might be your
> > > problem.
> > > Phil.
> >
> > Hi Phil,
> > I tried one more thing. I reinstalled and let Mandrake set up the default
> > partitions which broke up the partitions somewhat. LILO now appears to load into
> > the boot sector but doesn't get past LI on boot. The attachment (tmp.txt) shows
> > lilo.conf as it presently exists. Tmp2.txt shows the fdisk -l output.
> >
> > I'm sure getting tired of watching the install screen but I don't want to boot from
> > floppy forever. Where might I get the new improved LILO?
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > boot = /dev/hda
> > timeout = 50
> > prompt
> > message = /boot/message
> > default = linux
> > vga = normal
> > root = /dev/hda1
> > read-only
> > map=/boot/map
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > keytable=/boot/us.klt
> > lba32
> > image = /boot/vmlinuz
> > label = linux
> > image = /boot/vmlinuz
> > label = failsafe
> > append = " failsafe"
> > other = /dev/fd0
> > label = floppy
> > unsafe
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 781 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes
> >
> > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> > /dev/hda1 * 1 429 1729696+ 83 Linux
> > /dev/hda2 430 781 1419264 85 Linux extended
> > /dev/hda5 430 492 253984+ 82 Linux swap
> > /dev/hda6 493 781 1165216+ 83 Linux
> >
> > Disk /dev/hdc: 1 heads, 2147483647 sectors, 1 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 2147483647 * 512 bytes
>
> You only have 781 cylinders on the relevant disk, so the 1024
> cylinder limit shouldn't be an issue. The version of lilo that
> came with your distribution should suffice.
>
> But your lilo.conf file is wrong. The
> root=/dev/hda1
> read-only
> should be part of the image statement. In my lilo.conf files,
> the read-only comes before the root= statement, but I don't know
> if that makes any difference.
> The lba32 entry is irrelevant in your case.
>
> But all that doesn't really explain why you are still getting
> LI. Try a lilo.conf like the following
>
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0
> label=linux
> read-only
> root=/dev/hda1
>
> I presume your /boot/vmlinuz is a link to your kernel, but
> put the explicit kernel name in there to be sure. If you don't
> have 2.2.14-5.0, put the appropriate number there. Also,
> make sure you use the entry in /boot with vmlinuz not vmlinux.
>
> Make sure you run /sbin/lilo. You should get
> linux added
> or something similar as a message when it runs.
>
> I am assuming in this that /dev/hda1 contains your root
> partition. Look in /etc/fstab to be sure.
>
> You should be able to fix this without reinstalling. It is
> simply a lilo issue. Try it with the version of lilo that
> came with your distribution.
>
> If you don't already have a boot floppy, make one with the
> mkbootdisk command. Do man mkbootdisk to see the syntax,
> and be sure you have such a disk before proceeding.
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
Thanks. The new lilo.conf seems to have solved the problem. I hadn't hacked the old
one,
so that must have been the way the install put it together. Oh, well...
Thanks to everyone else for all the suggestions. I'm glad to be finished with Windows!
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From: Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Graphs program !
Date: 29 Aug 2000 18:49:13 -0500
>>>>> "Henning" == Henning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Henning> BTW.
Henning> How do I make x-akses to LOG? How do I make a marking
Henning> at a specified point? (I want to make
Henning> a line from the x-akses to f(x) and out to the Y-akses?
For the first question try the built in help. Start gnuplot
and type:
help set log
you'll get a screen of info telling you about various options
for log style graphs.
As for the second question try posting it to
comp.graphics.apps.gnuplot newsgroup.
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Script from crontab doesn't work.
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:43:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari) wrote:
> In article <8oh37u$13b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari) wrote:
> >> In article <LYQq5.78513$Kw2.700974@flipper>,
> >> Sjoerd Langkemper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >But it works on the command line, so I don't think Lynx is the
> >problem.
> >
> >> Lynx needs a "working terminal" to be able to start up. You have a
> >> "working terminal" when you run the script from the command line,
but
> >> not when cron is running the script (I guess the $TERM variable is
set
> >> to "unknown").
> >>
> >> If you really want to use Lynx in your script (overkill), try using
it
> >> with the "-term=vt100" option (see man page).
> >
> >This does _not_ work. I tried:
> > mm hh * * * lynx -term=vt100 www.siue.edu
> >got "Your terminal lacks ... the cursor"
>
> Oh, you should still use the -source option and redirect the output
> somewhere...
Would you please try this and let us know the results. The point
I was making is that it works on one machine but not the other.
BTW: I did redirect the output," >junk". Just got the damn error
message via mail; didn't post all the combination and permutations.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands,
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:51:11 -0500
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Eric Potter quoth:
~~ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:40:51 GMT
~~ From: Eric Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands,
~~
~~ In article <39abd80d$0$99047$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Martin Vipond"
~~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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~~ > I need to delete an entire directory with files and subdirectories. Is
~~ > there a command such as deltree?
~~ >
~~ > Thanks mjv
~~ >
~~ >
~~
~~ rm -rf directory
Why the '-f'? The man page for rm states:
[ trimmed to remain within 80 columns ]
"
-f Do not prompt for confirmation. Do not write diagnostic messages.
Do not produce an error return status if the only errors were
nonexisting files.
"
I would think that for a newbie (read: someone who is prone to making
errors), that the user would want confirmation for read-only files, etc.
Then again he may not, but better safe than sorry. :-)
anm
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From: Peter Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Headless X86 Linux system
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:35:00 -0700
One of the problems is that some of the functions keys don't
work. Another is that even su doesn't let you do everything.
On mine it would not let me halt or shutdown (for instance).
I haven't tried sudo yet though. Some of these things can be
set as permissions granted or denied somewhere (is it
hosts.allow?) Neverthe less it is still useful.
Peter
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: over aliasing of ls on default Mandrake 7.0 user setup
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:53:00 GMT
In article <8oh5op$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Over aliasing of ls found on default Mandrake 7.0 user setup:
...
> alias ll='ls -l'
...
On two of my machines there is a '/bin/ll'; but one of them has
the 'alias ll='ls -l'.
Guess they don't know what the ll they are doing ;-)
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