Linux-Misc Digest #957, Volume #25                Fri, 6 Oct 00 08:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: www doesn't look nice (GYULAI Mihaly)
  One 100% Newbie ("Collin Borrlewyn")
  Re: Fetchmail suddenly running very slow (Robert Kiesling)
  Re: One 100% Newbie (Robert Kiesling)
  Open SOurce Net based Learning Environment? (Gunnar Andersson)
  newbie struggles with slashcode ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: file problems still (newbie) (Eric)
  Re: NT + Linux dual boot, can I repair damaged NT loader? (Harry Lewis)
  alsa troubles (Glitch)
  Telnet problems, flow control? ("Jonathan G. Campbell")
  Re: Different IRQ Problems I think (Jean-David Beyer)
  LILO on drive a: ("Dusk")
  System Hangs - no error in messages file ("Gordon O`Neill")
  Re: NT + Linux dual boot, can I repair damaged NT loader? (Harry Lewis)
  Re: copying and pasting? (Tony Lawrence)
  Re: LILO on drive a: (Eric)
  Re: One 100% Newbie (Tony Lawrence)
  GNOME "panel" core dumps with signal 6 ??? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Starting of syslog problem (Gregory Fedor)
  Re: LILO on drive a: (Andreas Kleer)

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From: GYULAI Mihaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: www doesn't look nice
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:10:27 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  dick dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does amyone know howto configure the browser to show the right
> fonts?

Please tell us which browser you use...

If it's Netscape, go to the menu:  Edit / Preferences / Appearance /
Fonts / x - Use document-specified fonts, including Dynamic Fonts

You may choose fonts above this menu-item.

--
GYULAI Mihaly
http://gyulai.freeyellow.com


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From: "Collin Borrlewyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: One 100% Newbie
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:25:09 -0400

That's me. I am here and prepared to ask really stupid questions. The first
one is: Where should I ask really stupid questions? After that my questions
get even stupider, but I'll wait until I know I'm in the right place.


#Collin E Borrlewyn
##More enlightening than Buddist Jeopardy.
###[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
Subject: Re: Fetchmail suddenly running very slow
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 Oct 2000 05:18:41 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>In the last few days I have a problem with fetchmail. It has slowed down
>dramatically.
>
>At each ISP mailserver I connect to the following happens:
>
>Fetchmail starts to read the first message and says it is rewriting
>various addresses. It then hang for about 3 minutes before starting to
>collect all the mail. This goes normally but the same thing happens at
>the next ISP.

I would look for host name resolution errors in the system logs.  The
relevant program sounds like it is timing out while waiting for a
domain address.  It would seem that the error is occurring on the
local host... if it has an internal DNS, then the lookup problems
might be there.  It's possible that another name server that yours
connects to changed its configuration, and that's affected yours.


-- 
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
Subject: Re: One 100% Newbie
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 Oct 2000 05:28:12 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Collin Borrlewyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That's me. I am here and prepared to ask really stupid questions. The first
>one is: Where should I ask really stupid questions? After that my questions
>get even stupider, but I'll wait until I know I'm in the right place.

If they're related to Linux, you're in the right place.



-- 
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Gunnar Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Open SOurce Net based Learning Environment?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:06:34 +0200

Does anyone know about any open source equivalent to Lotus Learning
Space
or Web class for asynchronous net based learning?

Wanted for asynchronous web based teaching.

Early projects is also of interests.

Gunnar Andersson


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: newbie struggles with slashcode
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:11:56 GMT

I am a slash newbie and I installed all the components just as they
were told in the slash installation guide along with the myriad of perl
modules from CPAN. since i had trouble getting the exact versions
mentioned i downloaded the latest ones. but at the end, after copying
the slash's version of httpd.conf to the apache conf directory and
starting apache, i get an error message as follows :

Constant subroutine XHTML_DTD redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/constant.pm
Line 175
/bin/apachectl: httpd could not be started

i run slackware 7 with apache 1.3.11 and mysql 3.22.32.

i reinstalled everything on another linux box with the same specs and i
got the same error message but the httpd daemon did not stop and i got
slash running. i had to type http://my.ip.address/index.pl to get the
correct page otherwise i got a lot of garbage. i added 'index.pl' to
the DirectoryIndex directive in the httpd.conf before the
default 'index.shtml' and it solved the problem, i am not sure if this
might introduce new problems though. i would be really really grateful
if anyone could help me out with this. i am losing sleep. thanx in
advance.


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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: file problems still (newbie)
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:24:28 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

whippet0 wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
>     When I first started using Linux, I had a similiar problem. It turned
> out that it was because I didn't have the proper seearch paths setup. When
> you enter in a command, there is a list of directories that Linux searches
> through for the command. If the directory you're currently in isn't in the
> search path, it won't be able to find the file. I think the file is called
> .bash_profile (or some other file like that) and it should be in your home
> directory.  It's a hidden file so you have to use ls -al to see it.
> If you add ./ into the search path, Linux will always be able to execute all
> files in the directory you're currently in. ("." means the current directory
> you're in.)
> For example, you might have something like the following in the search path
> file:
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:./
> 
> Your other option is to always put a "./" in front of the file you want to
> execute.
> 
> Regards,
> George Couch

Good advise, though i have the idea that the poster is ruuning as root.
Root should not have . in it's $PATH 
As root use ./PROGRAM_FILENAME instead.

As a note to the original poster, DON'T CROSSPOST TO SO MANY GROUPS
!!!!!!!!

Eric

> >     Hey all. I still have problems executing files that i've untarred.  i
> > use tar xvpzf file  while i'm root, and when i ls -l the files, they say
> > root root for the properties, yet when i type the name in it sais file or
> > command not found. its reallll odd.  if iuse the tab-shortcut key it also
> > doesn't recognize it.
> > i'm on slackware linux, newest version
> >
> > thank you
> >
> > Jim

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From: Harry Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NT + Linux dual boot, can I repair damaged NT loader?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:25:09 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've got to admit that, comeing from an NT background, it's nice to
learn of an OS that lets you undo changes as well as do them!

Harry

Robert Wiegand wrote:
> 
> Harry Lewis wrote:
> >
> > 1. Make sure you have a Linux boot diskette (so you can boot to Linux
> > and configure LILO).
> >
> > 2. Boot to DOS using a DOS system diskette that has the FDISK tool
> > copied to it.
> >
> > 3. Issue the command FDISK /MBR
> 
> This method will work if you have a copy of DOS hanging around.
> 
> It is also possible to do the repair from Linux. When LILO overwrote the
> MBR it saved a copy of the old MBR. It is possible to put this back.
> Read the LILO manual for instructions.
> 
> --
> Regards,
> Bob Wiegand   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 06:32:01 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: alsa troubles

hello,

I just got my laptop back from having a hd replaced (head crash) and i'm
putting linux back on it.  Currently I'm working on sound.  I've found
out I can get everything but OSS emulation working under a regular user
and i can get everything, including OSS emulation, working under root. 
Problem is I can't figure out why I don't get OSS emulation as a user. 
If I startx under username , as KDE starts up, I can see log messages on
the console saying 'no sound device available, kaudioserver not started'
but i don't know why it could do it as root but not as a regular user. 
I added rw permissions to all the audio, amixer, and amidi devices in
/dev but that didn't help. It's a permisions problems obviously but
permissions on what?  

anyone got any ideas?

thanks
brandon

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From: "Jonathan G. Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Telnet problems, flow control?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:38:47 +0100

In the past few days, I have installed Linux (Mandrake 7.1) on a
Fujitsu-Siemens xB which has an Intel onboard LAN interface (82559).
I've downloaded the driver and all seems okay -- except a wierd problem
with telnet. I mention these as they are the major differences from a
working setup on another machine -- which, BTW, still works, so it's not
the UNIX machine going daft, also, see below.

I telnet to another UNIX box to read my mail. I can login okay, then the
UNIX box sends a greeting, and, eventually, requires a response.
However, after about 80 characters of the greeting it stops, and hangs
there for maybe 2 mins -- the only experience I can relate to it is long
ago using ctrl-S(?) for flow-control. Eventually the characters start to
flow again and the seession runs normally for a while. Then another
hangup -- I think always associated with an upcoming requirement for
response by me.

Peculiarly, when I telnet to another Linux machine (running RH 6.2, and
it has a 3C905 LAN card), and from there telnet on to the UNIX,
everything is okay.

I know it's wierd, but any ideas?

I have set TERM=vt100, but that makes no difference.

All other activity -- http browser, ftp, ping, seem okay.

TIA,

Jon C.

-- 
Jonathan G Campbell, Computer Science, Queen's University
Belfast, BT7 1NN Tel +44 (0)28 90 274623 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cs.qub.ac.uk/~J.Campbell/

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Different IRQ Problems I think
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 06:45:18 -0400

asage wrote:

> My computer has 3 serial ports.  One of them is for InfraRed.  The other
> two can be changed in the BIOS, so I have made them COM1 and COM2.
>
> I turned off PNP and set the jumpers on my modem to make it COM2 (I'd
> much rather have the Wacom in Linux, than the modem, if worse comes to
> worst).
>
> Windows will not allow the Wacom to be on COM1, but it sees the modem on
> COM2.  So in Windows, the Wacom is on COM3.
>
> When I run 'dmesg' after booting into Linux, I can see that Linux sees
> the two ports now, as ttyS0 and ttyS1.  However, it will not allow more
> than one thing to run.  I have chosen to run the Wacom.  The modem
> absolutely refuses to run on anything but ttyS0, in spite of having set
> the jumpers, using an explicit 'setserial' command and the fact that the
> Wacom is on ttyS0 (else it wouldn't run either).

Have you put the /dev/modem to point to where your modem really is? It
sounds as though you have /dev/modem -> /dev/ttyS0 on your machine. If you
want it on /dev/ttyS1, you must change that link.

> This is the wackiest thing I've ever seen.  I would have expected
> Windows to have trouble with this setup, and it did get hysterical a
> couple of times until I worked out that I had re-install the modem first
> and then the Wacom.
>
> Please, if anyone has any experience with this sort of problem, I'd
> appreciate your suggestions.  Will I need to use an 'AB Switch' or use
> loadlin to get into Linux?
>
> TIA
>
> Allison Sage

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 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
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From: "Dusk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,it.comp.os.linux.iniziare,it.comp.os.linux.software
Subject: LILO on drive a:
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:35:55 +0200

Hi,
I must re-install Winzozz98. But maybe he kill my LILO. So I want move LILO
to a floppy and after all, boot from A and recover my RH.

It si that correct and how can I do that?

tnx



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From: "Gordon O`Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: System Hangs - no error in messages file
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:09:09 +0100

Hi,
My RedHat 6.2 server is hanging almost everyday.  The X session freezes and
it is impossible to ping the machine.  The only solution is a reboot.  No
error is generated in the messages file.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Gordon O`Neill



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From: Harry Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NT + Linux dual boot, can I repair damaged NT loader?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:37:28 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



> Is there anything wrong with booting Linux from a diskette? -- if not,
> I'd stick with that. In spite of the fact that I've been using Linux
> since 1993, you will note from my approach that I'm relatively lazy and
> unadventurous towards it!

I'd echo other comments here - there really is no problem booting Linux
from a diskette other than you might forget the diskette on your desk
when you take the laptop on your round-the-world trip (on which you were
hoping to write that Linux killer app). Adding Linux to the NT boot menu
is relatively easy using a shareware tool called "bootpart".
 
> Another thing. In order to create a boot floppy, I had to read up on it
> in Running Linux (Welsh, Dalheimer and Kaufman). That caused me to find
> out why all previous attempts failed -- incorrect pointer to Linux root
> filesystem; i.e. 'rdev' had to be used. I'd imagine that's a pretty
> common mistake.

Yip!

Harry

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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: copying and pasting?
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 07:33:31 -0400

Carl Fink wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2000 23:53:03 GMT Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> But how can I copy and paste between say terminal window
> >> and Netscape? Shift-Insert does not work.
> >
> >In the terminal window, just highlight the url. By highlighting,
> >you will place it into the clipboard. You can paste it with the
> >middle buton (or if two buttons then the two together).
> 
> Except that in Netscape you paste with Alt-V, and copy with Alt-C.


The mouse methods work in Netscape also, and sometimes they are
all you have..

-- 
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LILO on drive a:
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 13:39:05 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dusk wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I must re-install Winzozz98. But maybe he kill my LILO. So I want move LILO
> to a floppy and after all, boot from A and recover my RH.
> 
> It si that correct and how can I do that?
> 
> tnx

Don't crosspost to so many groups (and set a follow-up)

just put a floppy in the floppy drive, and run mkbootdisk (as root)

Eric

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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: One 100% Newbie
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 07:58:01 -0400

Collin Borrlewyn wrote:
> 
> That's me. I am here and prepared to ask really stupid questions. The first
> one is: Where should I ask really stupid questions? After that my questions
> get even stupider, but I'll wait until I know I'm in the right place.


There are plenty of stupid answers, but very few stupid
questions..

-- 
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests, 
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNOME "panel" core dumps with signal 6 ???
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 07:58:27 -0400

I run Red Hat Linux 6.0 on this machine, and had put many RPMs
in it to keep it up to date.

Recently I had to reinstall the whole thing and I am trying to
get it back where it was. I am having several problems:

1.) Many of the RPMs will not go in because of bad
dependencies, and I do not seem to have the required RPMs, even
though I should have them all.

2.) I notice if I log in to GNOME, everything seems to work
fine, but I get a core file every time I log in. If I run file
on it, it says:

valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ file core
core: ELF 32-bit LSB core file of 'panel' (signal 6), Intel
80386, version 1
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$

Now according to /usr/include/asm/signal.h signal 6 is:

#define SIGABRT          6
#define SIGIOT           6

Now panel is working find, as far as I can tell, so if it
crashed, someone restarted it and it worked the second time. I
checked which RPM package panel is in:

valinux:jdbeyer[/usr/include/sys]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/panel
gnome-core-1.0.7-2
valinux:jdbeyer[/usr/include/sys]$
 which is the one that comes with the distribution, so I did
not upgrade it to something else.

Where should I look next? I am slowly losing my mind. Had to
reinstall Linux because I could not reinstall IBM DB2 and make
it work. (It does work now that I reinstalled Linux), but now I
cannot upgrade the kernel because of dependency problems, etc.
Over a week wasted.

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From: Gregory Fedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Starting of syslog problem
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:45:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am running Redhat 6.2 and have the following problem.  During system
startup, the boot process gets to the point of "Starting system
logger..." and then hangs there for about 3 minutes before moving on.
No errors are reported and I can't see that the system is not working
properly, however it's got me baffled as to why it is hanging there.
It appears to be coming out of /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S30syslog, but I admit
that I'm not very knowledgable about what is/should be going on there.

Any ideas?
--
Gregory A. Fedor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Andreas Kleer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,it.comp.os.linux.iniziare,it.comp.os.linux.software
Subject: Re: LILO on drive a:
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 13:40:14 +0200

Hi Dusk,

don't know if it will help you, but I did it with YaST, select
administrate system->kernel &boot configuration-> configer LILO


Andreas


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