Linux-Misc Digest #418, Volume #26               Tue, 28 Nov 00 18:13:02 EST

Contents:
  8.13. How Can I Enable or Disable Core Dumps? (Don Secrest)
  Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is... (Edward Rosten)
  Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is... (Edward Rosten)
  Re: Linux/Linus reference... (Paul Kimoto)
  Strange SBlive Prob
  Linux vs DIGITAL ALPHA 3000/600 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How to send AT commands to modem and view results? (M. Buchenrieder)
  XSCREENSAVER (Gotzon Berrojalbiz)
  Kernel parameters ("Nils Magnus Eide Englund")
  Re: [Fwd: cannot connect to linux] (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Can't mount or dd nonstandard floppy ("John W. Krahn")
  Re: Migrate a running process from machine A to machine B (Snoopy)
  Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is... (Robert Kiesling)
  Re: IDE cd burner install advice (D'Arque Bishop)
  netscape6 with qt-support (Dirk Groeneveld)
  Filesystem problems: bdflush, update, kflush, kupdate questions (David)
  Re: End Task Command ("Garry Knight")
  AUMIX configuration (Gotzon Berrojalbiz)
  Re: Linux colors screw up SCO console (Olaf Zaplinski)
  Re: Grub set up? (Olaf Zaplinski)

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Subject: 8.13. How Can I Enable or Disable Core Dumps?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Secrest)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:09:56 GMT

        I used to get a core dump when a program crashed, but recently
I no longer get coredumps.  I had a seg fault recently and wanted a
core dump.  So I looked at the FAQs on my slackware cdrom.  It told me
to use ulimit if I use bash shell, or limit if I use tcsh.  It also
told me to consult the man pages.  I use tcsh so I typed man limit.
No man page.  So I typed man ulimit, and I got a man page.  It
contained a list of program names including ulimit and said these are
obsolete programs, no longer used.
         Well my slakware cdrom is two years old, so I decided I
needed a recent FAQ.  So yesterday Nov. 27, 2000 I looked at the new
FAQ which is the subject of this note.  It was almost the same as the
old one, but there were a few new leads.  It directed me to the "Linux
Administrators Security Guide"  which doesn't even mention core
dumps.
        So I started looking around at the keyboard. I typed whereis
limit,  no such file.  I typed limit and to my surprise I got a list of
all of the limits on various things, and indeed the limit coredumpsize
0 kbytes seems to be my problem.  So I diddled around and managed to
set a new limit by typing limit coredumpsize 8000 , this gives a limit
of 8 Megs on a coredump.  So obviously the command does exist.  So I
typed where limit.  I know that sometimes whereis and where give
different answers and this time it was quite useful, where limit told
me that limit was a builtin command in tcsh, so man tcsh gave me all
of the information on core dumps I needed.
        If this had been mentioned in the FAQ I would have been saved
much time.  I feel that the FAQ is in need of updating.  For tcsh
users typing 'limit coredumpsize 34' will give a limit of 34 kbytes
for the present session.  Placing that command in the .csh file in
your home directory will set the limits whenever you log on.  
        I did not investigate other shells however.

Don Secrest

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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is...
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:16:15 +0000

> I wasn't criticizing the little BSD daemon, he's really cute. Tux isn't. Tux
> has a dead glassy/insane look about him that makes me rather uneasy.


Have you seen the satanic tux?

www.satanic.org

-Ed

-- 
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold | Edward
Rosten 
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere?      | u98ejr
        - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies                    | @
                                                           | eng.ox.ac.uk

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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is...
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:16:50 +0000

the_blur wrote:
> 
> http://pages.infinit.net/outcasts/pinguinos.html
> 
> > Really fine drawings. I don't know anything about art, but you sure can
> > hold a crayon in your hands.
> >
> > One remark: Tux was never meant to be taken serious. It reflects the
> > character of the linux community: just a stupid picture, don't think too
> > much about it, it's part of the fun. Your penguinos look good, very good,
> > but they're too serious. Does making your penguins humorous sound like
> > rape?
> 
> Hehe, I'm just following SOP to design a proper animal graphic. First, I
> draw pennguins. Lots of penguins, then I'll start stylizing them into
> graphic images, then I'll refine..refine and refine... and then start over
> for another pinguino.

Still, most of us here couldn't draw like that. I couldn't.

-Ed



-- 
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold | Edward
Rosten 
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere?      | u98ejr
        - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies                    | @
                                                           | eng.ox.ac.uk

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Linux/Linus reference...
Date: 28 Nov 2000 15:37:33 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can anyone give me a published book/article on Linux (preferably by
> Linus Torvalds) which one could use in an article as a general
> citation? E.g., for UNIX the standard reference seems to be the
> 1978 Ritchie and Thompson article in the Bell Labs Technical Journal
> (although there was also a CACM article around the same time).

There is LT's article in _Open sources_, although that's not an
academic- or technical-type essay.

 http://www.openresources.com/documents/open-sources/node84.html
 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Strange SBlive Prob
Date: 28 Nov 2000 20:45:49 GMT

Hello all,

I have gotten the SoundBlaster Live working on my personal workstation running
Debian with a 2.2.17 kernel a while ago.

But now I'm working on new project with some special hardware.
I'm using an Advantech Biscuit PC motherboard PCM-5864-L
http://www.advantech.com/products/PCM-5864L.asp

It has no integrated sound board, but I am using a SoundBlasterLive

I have tried using the 2.2.17 and 2.4.0 test10 kernels. Kernel compiles fine so
gets detected,  But when I try playing any sound I can barely hear it, even wit
speakers turned all the way up.

I tried using the latest emu10k1 drivers as well.

For the first few hours I thought it was not working but I decided to turn the
the way up and I could hear sound, its scratchy but I can barely hear it

I even tried using programs like aumix to control /dev/mixer and adjust the vol
levels. Still no dice.


Anyone have any ideas. or need more info?

The card works fine on my desktop machine BTW

Thanks

-v

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux vs DIGITAL ALPHA 3000/600
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:54:24 GMT

Good day,

I have an offer to acquire a DIGITAL ALPHA 3000/600.

On the RedHat 6.2 hcl (hardware compatibility list) I don't see this
Alpha model.

Does Linux runs on this type of Alpha hardware?

Tks..



Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: How to send AT commands to modem and view results?
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:57:47 GMT

[Newsgroups: edited, F'Up-to: set]

"trebor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I have been using a modem to accept incoming calls .. and it works OK,
>though on my system I had to add a getty line to /etc/inittab. But once that
>was done, incoming calls were accepted and I could login to Linux.

You'll have to do that, as there's no other way to have the program
listening to the serial port being respawned after a closed connection.

>However, in order to send the proper AT commands to enable auto-answer on
>the modem, 

You don't want that. 
Setup mgetty instead.

>I had to hook the modem up to a PC and use Hyperterminal to

[...]

Argh.
Use minicom.

Michael
-- 
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
    Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.

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From: Gotzon Berrojalbiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: XSCREENSAVER
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:10:56 GMT

I would like to get XSCREENSAVER started when I start a X-Window
session. Now I have to activate it manually but I would like to
initialize the countdown when I start a X-Window session.
I've been told in an IRC channel that I have to create a ".xinitrc" file
in my /home directory but I have no idea about how to do this.

THANKS
-- 
 _-------------------------------------------_
| Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 - Linux User # 175.011 |
|---------------------------------------------|
|   Kernel 2.2.17 -  P200 MHz  - 64 Mb RAM    |
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From: "Nils Magnus Eide Englund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.sources.kernel
Subject: Kernel parameters
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:25:05 +0100

I'm trying to make the boot-up process look as nice
and "userfriendly" as possible. I'm wondering how I
can make the kernel send all it's output to /dev/tty12.
I was told I could use the "console" kernel parameter
when booting and configuring syslogd for sending all
kernel messages to the same tty, after the system has
booted. Can anyone help me with the kernel params
or the syslogd config, or point me to an URL which
deals with this subject?

Sincerely,
Nils Magnus Eide Englund



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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [Fwd: cannot connect to linux]
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:36:54 -0500

ekk wrote:
> 
> Thank you for your reply,
> Do you mean /etc/hosts?  It is properly defined there.  I only have information
> about the local devices in /etc/exports.

Sorry. I meant /etc/exports, but I was mistaken about what your
problem was. Possibly /etc/hosts would do it.

-- 
 .~.   Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  4:35pm up 3 days, 3 min, 2 users, load average: 2.23, 2.09,
1.94

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From: "John W. Krahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Can't mount or dd nonstandard floppy
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:39:43 GMT

Martin Gregorie wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:54:25 GMT, "John W. Krahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >SpinRite will repair BOTH hard disks and floppy disks.
> >
> Maybe so but DON'T REPAIR THE DISKS because this will merely destroy
> them.
> 
> Write Protect them immediately if this hasn't already been done.
> 
> What you really need to know is what OS the SCM used and from there
> get to the disk format.

>From the OP, in case you haven't been following this thread:
> (however, vi'ing the resulting file did confirm that the disk at least has
> the words "MSDOS FAT12" and some other nonreadable stuff in its first
> block-- sorry, I didn't capture this bit, but if it's necessary, I can)

Which is why I recommended SpinRite.

John

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From: Snoopy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Migrate a running process from machine A to machine B
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:41:11 -0700

>          The place where I have run into something similar to this
>         is in fault tolerant, automatic switchover telecom systems.
>         In general things get troublesome quickly.
>         If it is at all possible, try to avoid problems by simplifying.
>         How much state knowledge/data does the process have?

    Thanks for your advice.  Can you tell me more precisely what STATE means?

Regards

STC


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is...
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:56:02 GMT


"the_blur" <the_blur_oc@*removespamguard*hotmail.com> writes:

> > Great, Fred.  So instead of "improving" the operating system, I
> > can waste time reading your message.  I don't particularly give
> > a good goddamn either, what the KDE or GNOME projects' perspective
> > is about the penguin.  AFAIK, they simply went ahead and devised
> > their own logos, which is just fine with me.  Linux is the work
> > of the people who wrote it, and so is KDE, GNOME, etc., ad
> > infinitum, not yours...., and I could almost guarantee you that
> > they don't care what you think.  But I don't speak for them, as
> > you've presumed to do here.
> 
> Hehe, you were gonna read my message anyway, and you know it =) Otherwise
> you could just put me on your killfile and never have to hear my inane
> arguments again. I invite you to do so now.
> 
> But, where did I presume to speak for anyone but myself (aside from the
> little HID bit) ?
> 
> Gotta love that Linux community spirit eh? =)
> 
> Cheers!

Not a problem, Fred.  And thanks for the penguin logos.  :)

-- 
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D'Arque Bishop)
Subject: Re: IDE cd burner install advice
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:42:54 GMT

Hey there,

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lori Holder-Webb wrote:
>For general information...
>
>Last month's Maximum Linux provides a tutorial on installing and
>configuring an IDE CD-R for a linux system.  Recent experience (I still
>have the headache) suggests that both this article *and* the CD-Burning
>HOWTO are lacking a couple of vital steps in this process.  I can't
>imagine I'm the only one who encounters this problem, so here's my
>Public Service Announcement.

Well, I admit, I never did read that article, but I'll throw in my own two
cents here. :)

>
>What my problem looked like:
>compiled the kernel as instructed in the article and the HOWTO,
>installed the new kernel, rebooted.
>
>The cd burner kept getting mapped to hdc.  The emulation didn't work,
>the drive wasn't recognized as a SCSI device, running "cdrecord
>-scanbus" yielded the information that the SCSI modules had been
>installed but there didn't appear to be any SCSI devices in the system.  
>
>Since the directions dictate that part of the kernel customization
>necessitates eliminating IDE/ATAPI CD support, the drive was totally
>inaccessible.

Interesting... on my system, I kept IDE/ATAPI CD support in the system, and
it worked fine.  Then again, I imagine the directions given were slightly
different than what was give to you. :)

>What the solution turned out to be:
>We had to regenerate the system map and run mkinitrd on the new kernel
>version.
>
>After this was done, everything worked fine (more or less).
>
>This isn't the first custom kernel I've had to make, but it is the first
>time that I've absolutely had to make a new system map and initrd.  I
>suppose it has to do with installing new hardware, although I'm not
>really sure about that.
>
>In any event, the article and the HOWTO don't seem to include the system
>map and initrd step.

What I did, was keep IDE/ATAPI CD support in the kernel, because I had more
than one CD drive in my system.  I then added in SCSI emulation, SCSI CD,
and SCSI generic support.  Once that was done, I simply added the following
line to the Linux entry in lilo.conf:

append = "hdd=ide-scsi"

On my system, /dev/hdd was the CD burner.  Once all that was done and I reran
lilo, the machine booted and saw the burner correctly as a SCSI device.  And
no, I didn't have to make a new system map or run initrd. :)

Just my $.02...

-- 
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        I am utterly alone.  Evil because I am dead and yet I live.
        Can you hear me?  Listen.  A dead man visits you."
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                 D'Arque Bishop -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscape6 with qt-support
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:37:07 +0100

Hi!

Has anyone in here succeeded building netscape6 M18 with the --with-qt 
option?
I tried it: At first, he couldn't find some files. I gave him the files.
Now, he complains about code that tries to define an instance of an abstact 
class.

I'm trying --with-static-qt right now, but i'm not very confident...

Dirk

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Filesystem problems: bdflush, update, kflush, kupdate questions
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:23:55 -0800


Hello,

Recently, my linux box froze up and I was forced to power down without
doing a proper shutdown.  I was rather surprised when, after
booting up, I found that all changes to my file system from the last few
*days* had not been written.  I started investigating and
found out that:

I have a kflush process but no kupdate process running.  I have no
update process running.  The call to update in my inittab file was
commented out, presumably because my distribution (Mandrake 6.1 or 6.0,
can't recall) expected there to be a kupdate process
running.  My kernel is version 2.2.9.  For the moment, I have
uncommented that line of my inittab file so that I at least have some
filesystem sync'ing going on.  But I understand that it is better to
have kupdate running than update.

Is there something the startup scripts should be doing to get kupdate
running?  If not, and the kernel should be starting it
automatically, how could this be happening and how could I fix it?

Thanks in advance for any help.

David


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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: End Task Command
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:26:46 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Dan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does Linux have an equivalent to MS Windows '98 command
> Ctrl-Alt-Delete and then End Task so that you can reset the
> computer if it is stalled or "frozen"  without completely
> rebooting the computer?  

Others have told you the command-line method, but there's also a
"three-finger salute" method if you're running KDE. Just press
Ctrl+Alt+Esc and your cursor turns to a skull and crossbones. Click on
the app to kill and it's gone.

However, if I were you I'd only try this as a last resort since (as far
as I know) it kills the process rather than asking it nicely to
terminate, which means it won't have a chance to save its data or its
current state.

-- 
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Gotzon Berrojalbiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: AUMIX configuration
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:33:14 GMT

I would like to know how to save the AUMIX configuration for future
Linux sessions. I've read that I have to modify some initilization
script but I don't know how to do it.

THANKS.
-- 
 _-------------------------------------------_
| Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 - Linux User # 175.011 |
|---------------------------------------------|
|   Kernel 2.2.17 -  P200 MHz  - 64 Mb RAM    |
 `-------------------------------------------'

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From: Olaf Zaplinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux colors screw up SCO console
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:36:36 +0100

Tony Lawrence wrote:
> 
> If you've ever accessed a Linux box from a SCO console,  you've
> probably experienced the messed up result from Linux using color
> in vi, ls, etc.
> 
> While you can do some things on the Linux side to prevent this or
> set the colors to something more agreeable to SCO, there is a
> simple "all or nothing" fix:
> 
> Before accessing the Linux box, run "vidi vm80x25" on the SCO
> console.  This just shuts off color entirely, causing the Linux
> color sequences to at worst give you bold characters.

... or you should try 'unalias ls'

Olaf

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From: Olaf Zaplinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Grub set up?
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:33:52 +0100

philo wrote:
> 
> Follow up:
> i've "solved"my problem temporarily by  dual booting os/2
> and linux on a 2 gig drive...
> 
> i'll probably soon, set up another drive where i can experiment a bit
> until i get it right...
> and test my configuration on a floppy

Hmm, what went wrong? Perhaps the wrong GRUB version? I use grub-0.5.95, the
newer version troubles me.

Olaf

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