Linux-Misc Digest #477, Volume #27 Thu, 29 Mar 01 15:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: ALSA and Crystal Semiconductor CODECS: CS4237B and Suse 7.0 ("Keith Marjerison")
Re: /boot directory (Michael Heiming)
Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. ("Dan Forsythe")
perl script to browse web site ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
problems still.... ("Chimpsky")
Re: problems still.... ("Davide Bianchi")
Re: What is the size of Linux 2.4.1 Kernel (Chad Everett)
netscape and applets (David Mehringer)
Re: Turn on NumLock by default in future XFree86 ! ! ! (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Kernel panic--urgent (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: problems still.... ("Jason C. Hill")
Re: Pine ignores /etc/mail/gericstable (Bill Unruh)
Re: c++ keyboard readout (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: netscape and applets ("Jeremy Paiz")
mc, vga fonts, xterm and lines... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Turn on NumLock by default in future XFree86 ! ! ! (Mike McLennan)
Re: c++ keyboard readout (Stefano Ghirlanda)
jetdirect and linux. ("Kenny@BUI")
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: "Keith Marjerison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Keith Marjerison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ALSA and Crystal Semiconductor CODECS: CS4237B and Suse 7.0
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:14:29 GMT
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:26:02 GMT, Keith Marjerison wrote:
>On 28 Mar 2001 03:00:35 GMT, Dances With Crows wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:44:48 -0000, Christopher W. Aiken staggered into
>>the Black Sun and said:
>>>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:48:27 GMT, Keith Marjerison
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>1st, I'm a Linux newbe, so go eazy. How do I go about getting Suse to
>>>>recognize my TidalWave128 ISA sound card. It is PnP and the 'isadump'
>>>>utility :)sees the card but when I try and use 'YaST2' to install
>>>>'Generic' support for :)the 'CS42*' and the program stops saying the
>>>>'kernel' does not support it. :)What am I doing wrong? What is a good
>>>>reference for Linux ? i.e. Linux :)Unleashed? Thanks for any help in
>>>>advance.
>>>
>>>I got my CS4232 up and running by adding the following lines
>>>to my /etc/rc.d/boot.local file. The run the boot.local file
>>>or reboot.
>>>
>>>echo "Setup CS4232 Sound"
>>>modprobe soundcore
>>>modprobe sound
>>>modprobe ad1848
>>>modprobe uart401
>>>modprobe cs4232 io=0x530 irq=7 dma=1 dma2=3 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=9
>>SuSE 7.x uses ALSA, not the kernel OSS drivers, by default. Chris gave
>>the OSS solution, which should work provided you can find the right
>>values for all the parameters. Every cs42xx I've seen has used IRQ 5,
>>for instance, and "0" for dma2, but try various things... the worst you
>>can do is lock up the system. Keith, have you tried "alsaconf"?
>>
>>As for a good Linux book, _Running Linux_ by Matt Walsh (published by
>>O'Reilly and Associates) is a pretty good low-to-mid-level book. If you
>>got the "Professional" SuSE distro, you should have a pretty
>>comprehensive set of manuals sitting around. (The manuals are much less
>>comprehensive in the "Personal" distro. Sigh.) The following sites can
>>be very useful for Linux users:
>>
>>http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/
>>http://linuxnewbies.org/
>>file:/usr/share/doc/packages/
>>
>>--
>>Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
>>Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
>>http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
>>-----------------------------/ I hit a seg fault....
> I tried both of the above methods without any positive results. When
>I modify the 'Boot.local' file there is an error message when booting. What
>is even stranger is that with out any changes to the 'boot.local' file, when
>my machine boots and I watch as the different devices are initialized, I can
>see my Crystalizer TidalWave 128 card in the list and all of the 'Ports' and
>'IRQs' and 'DMAs' are listed and initialized correctly, but I am still unable
>to get sound support. I have also tried the 'alsaconf' utility with an error
>that no supported sound card was found. I have no idea what is wrong. The
>YaST2 program tells me to try installing with the 'OSS/Free' package, what
>and where is this package?
> As far as I know this Crystalizer TidalWave 128 card uses the same
>drivers for the 'Newcomm 3D' sound card in both Windoze and OS/2.
> I must say I am completely baffled.
> Thanks again for any help.
>
>/>Keith Marjerison
>/>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
Hi Folks;
Solved my problem with
modprobe sound
insmod ad1848
insmod uart401
insmod cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330
in my '/sbin/init.d/boot.local' file.
Is there a list of documented arguments that can passed to the cs4232
line.
Also, in the 'modules.conf' file , the lines to enable 'ALSA' are '#'
out. Would 'ALSA' have worked if I had removed the '#' from the 'ALSA' lines?
Thanks again for all your help.
/>Keith Marjerison
/>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:19:41 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /boot directory
Bart Friederichs wrote:
>
> "René Scheibe" wrote:
> >
> > Can someone tell me what the following files in
> > the /boot directory are for:
> > chain.b
> > map
> > modules-info
> > System.map
> >
> > Do I need them or can I delete some of them.
> > (I compiled a kernel without modul-support)
> >
> > Thanx...
> Why does everybody in this NG want to totally strip his /boot directory?
> We're talking about 1MB or so, _including_ the kernel.
Thx..Bart,
however, there is a thread about system.map, some posts above this...
Best regards
Michael Heiming
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From: "Dan Forsythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:25:28 -0500
The one that was designed to be secure. Windows 9x/Me wasn't designed to be
as secure as Linux was. There are versions of Windows that are very secure,
but with security comes increased management. Compare apples with apples
next time.
"Linux is free if your time is worth nothing" - - Author unknown, but
enlightened.
"Linux will never be the OS of majority, at least in my lifetime." - - Me,
just now.
"Easynet News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:_xLw6.249817$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Let's just think about this for a second...
>
> Linux - Explicit permissions-based, high-availability system on which, if
> you're clever, not ONE service need run with root privilege.
>
> Windows ME (&98, 95) - No user or file-auditing facility, Windows
Scripting
> Host running by default with full access to the system, no restrictions on
> what can and cannot be done by a given user etc etc etc ...
>
> Let's see ... which is more secure?
> "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:vHmw6.1781$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Well, with all the holes that Linux has I would definitely stay away
from
> > it. It seems to be a virus's playground. ME isn't nearly as full of
> security
> > holes.
> > ME isn't buggy, it's the type of people who can't seem to read
> installation
> > notes.
> >
> > --
> > http://personal.mem.bellsouth.net/mem/s/o/soffer/
> >
> > Reply via this newsgroup or email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Be sure to remove the "nospam" from the address
> > All spam is reported to abuse.net
> >
> >
> > "Jeremy Paiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:99rvbv$1dr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > if i were you, and if you haven't already purchased windows me, i
would
> > NOT
> > > install it at all. it would be a waste of 15gb on your system. i
> > currently
> > > have it (along with linux on a dual boot), and it has utterly
> disappointed
> > > me. it's way too buggy. i don't think microsoft tested/debugged it
> very
> > > well -- like they do that anyway for any of their other products! i
> would
> > > just stick with win98 and get the second edition upgrade. besides, as
> > > another person posted in reply, why would you have 2 os's so identical
> in
> > > the first place? one windows os is bad enough, why make the hard disk
> > > suffer any more than it has to!? ;)
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> >
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Jeremy M Paiz
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > "AK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:99m07r$leb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I am thinking of putting Windows ME onto one of my machines
> > > > .. it has 2 Harddisk.. identical in size..
> > > >
> > > > Anyway the HDs has these partitions:
> > > >
> > > > C: Win98
> > > > D: 15GB I plan to put ME on.
> > > > E: Linux
> > > >
> > > > On E: I plan to put Linux.
> > > >
> > > > If I did a setup D: or (whatever the switch is) would my MBR be OK?
> > > > Can all these 3 OSs exist OK.. and would my DOS be preserved?
> > > > I am using loadlin to load linux so it wont touch the MBR.
> > > >
> > > > What would happen if D: was on a removable HD... would the system
> > > > he able to boot OK?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kila_m
> > > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > This is not a pipe "|" http://www.dvdwriters.co.uk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.240 / Virus Database: 116 - Release Date: 3/23/2001
> >
> >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.programming
Subject: perl script to browse web site
Date: 29 Mar 2001 19:15:51 GMT
Hello all,
I am running perl on Linux and wonder if there are any perl scripts out
there that will allow me to point to a web site. What i need to do is to
fill in a search form on a web site with the words to search and then cause
that form to be submitted to the website along with some cookies value.
So the perl script I am looking for must be able to send form information as
well as cookies information. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of
such
programs? or info on how to write one? Also, I might have to run the
same perl scripts on WinNT :-(
Appreciate you help, please also CC me a copy to my email if possible
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From: "Chimpsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems still....
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:33:14 GMT
Hi,
I'm still having trouble setting linux 6.2 to use a sound card and changing
the monitor size so my freakin' icons can fit on the Windows X screen, does
anyone know where and how to do this?
Thanks yo
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From: "Davide Bianchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems still....
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:36:59 -0800
"Chimpsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:_5Mw6.161423$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm still having trouble setting linux 6.2 to use a sound card and
changing
> the monitor size so my freakin' icons can fit on the Windows X screen,
does
> anyone know where and how to do this?
Hemmm... for "changing the monitor size" I suppose you refer to the
screen resolution... anyway, have you tried to read the
XFree86-HOWTO and the Sound-HOWTO at
http://www.linuxdoc.org ?
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: What is the size of Linux 2.4.1 Kernel
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:42:17 GMT
Linux Supreme
>Alan Po <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dear all
>>
>> Would you tell me the size of Linux 2.4.1 kernel? Is it very large?
>
>Kernel source, about 100 MBytes.
>
>Compressed, about 20 MBytes.
>
>Kernel binary on my machines runs about 600kbytes.
>
The 2.2.xx compiled kernels on my system are about 600K. The
2.4.2 kernel customized and built for my system is about 1Meg.
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From: David Mehringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscape and applets
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:45:43 -0600
Am running netscape 4.76 (had the same problem with 4.75). Sometimes, when
running applets which normally have no problems, netscape sucks all the CPU
time and the only way I can figure out how to deal with it is to kill it
with signal 9. Anyone know a fix for this? Anyone tried Netscape 6?
Thanks
--
David Mehringer, Ph.D. University of Illinois
[EMAIL PROTECTED] National Center for Supercomputing
Research Scientist, Applications/Department of Astronomy
Software Applications Developer, 1002 W. Green St.
BIMA Data Archivist Urbana, IL 61801 USA
voice: 217 244 5468 fax: 217 244 7638
http://monet.astro.uiuc.edu/~dmehring/dmehring.html
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turn on NumLock by default in future XFree86 ! ! !
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:46:22 -0500
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Darrell Rudmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Seven of Nine"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> It is truely amazing that the developers of XFree86 have not thought
> >> this through. In Windows, the NumLock is turned on and the LED is lit by
> >> default upon boot, which is the way it should be. In GNU/Linux, this
>
> > Yes, this is annoying. As a Windows user trying to using Linux as a
> > primary desktop OS, at least a prompt during installation or an option in
> > a control panel would be nice.
>
> > I've never seen anyone use the number pad for anything other than entering
> > numbers. I realize some folks don't, but not the majority.
>
> It's annoying that people use the number pad. Why do they do it? There
> are perfectly good numbers on the first row, where you don't have to
> move your hands to get to them. What is the number pad FOR? Do windows
> users think that a computer is some sort of calculator?
People who have to enter a lot of numbers can touch-type the numbers
on the number-pad much more quickly than they can with the top row
numbers. For one thing, they can do it with one hand while the other
hand keeps track of the stuff they are entering (presumably from a
piece of paper or a book or something). I find it very useful at
times.
>
> I'm very happy that the numlock key (or whatever it is. Scrllck?) is
> off. I don't know what's on my numberpad (gets up and walks across the
> room to find a keyboard with one, the three at my side don't have one ..)
> but I'm sure it's better the way it is with numbers OFF! Euuuwwwww ..
> it's the cursor pad! Why didn't you say so! Of course I don't want that
> emitting numbers! How would I navigate around my editor?
>
My keyboard has a separate cursor pad, so for me, I would prefer the
Numbers Lock set on. I examined the settings suggested by a previous
poster (already gone from my server, but by diddling
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/types/basic), but found they are already set
the way he says to set them, and that does not work for me.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 2:40pm up 1 day, 4:53, 3 users, load average: 3.11, 3.18, 2.98
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel panic--urgent
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:47:30 -0500
"Sudhakar R." wrote:
>
> > > no where / was residing, 8 was now renumbered to 5. I rebooted the system
> > > without modifying my /etc/lilo.conf to reflect the new partition number
> > > that / was assigned by fdisk.
> > >
> > > Invalid session no. or type of track
> > > Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 10:08
> >
> > Are you sure it said 10:08 ???
> > That's not a HDD major.
> sorry, that was 03:08
>
> > at the liloprompt "linux root=/dev/hda5"
> > (or where-ever the root FS is)
>
> This worked and I cud get the system up and running. I then used fdisk
> under dos to create the logical drive on the FAT32 patition. Unfortunately
> this seems to have messed up my entire system 'coz when I rebooted Windows
> says all my FAT32 partitions on the logical drive are not formatted and
> it looks like I've lost all files in them. Also when I reboot under
> linux I get the folowing error after a few initial messages
>
> Warning: unable to open an initial console
> Kernel panic: No init found. try passing init= option to kernel
>
> Could you please tell me how I can go about recovering my linux and
> windows partitions.
>
> Thanx for your time. I appreciate it very much.
> -sud
Make sure the partitions are formatted correctly, and then restore
them from your backup tape(s).
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 2:45pm up 1 day, 4:58, 3 users, load average: 3.26, 3.24, 3.05
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From: "Jason C. Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems still....
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:49:02 -0500
As well as typeing:
setup
and I believe the other is
sndconfig
The setup will give you a menu with multiple options, you'll want the X
option...only choose 1 resolution...I've always had problems when I've
wanted to choose more than 1.
And sndconfig is pretty much the same, easy to do, asks if you can hear
things, etc.
-J
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Pine ignores /etc/mail/gericstable
Date: 29 Mar 2001 19:56:44 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alex Fitterling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]has got anyone a glue, why pine is ignoring my sendmail configuration
]with genericstable enabled.... through pipe ( echo ........ | mail
]someone@x,y ) I can send mail the correct way, everything is working
]well: the outgoing sender gets transformed into new (specified) one.
]In meanwhile pine still sends mail using wrong sender name, what's
]wrong ? ..has anyone a hint on this ?
Is this a local user? I suspect that pine does not use sendmail to deliver mail
locally,
and thus any sendmail config is obviously lost.
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: c++ keyboard readout
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:56:50 -0500
Experimental Data wrote:
>
> Hi!
> In a c++ programme I wish to read the keyboard. More precisely I
> want to make a command in a loop, that does like std::cin>>, but instead
> of stopping and waiting for a line and [return] I want the loop to be
> continued unaffected until sombody presses, say "s".
> I was told it really was a cuestion about the os - although I dont
> really know why. I use RH 6.2 and g++ to compile. Maybe one of you
> know...
>
> Ivan
It really has next to nothing to do with the OS. You want to have C++
read one character at a time. To do that, you must turn off the
"cooking" that is normally done to files. You may wish to examine
ioctl(2), tty(4), and especially termios(3). It is no fun, but I have
done a lot of things with this.
In the bad old days, I even made a 0.1 second routine that worked like
sleep(3) before there were finer timers in UNIX/Linux.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 2:50pm up 1 day, 5:03, 3 users, load average: 3.09, 3.19, 3.09
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From: "Jeremy Paiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape and applets
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:56:18 -0500
whatever you do, DO NOT INSTALL netscape 6. it's crap.
--
________________________________________________________________________
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Software Engineer
Research & Development Division
Welding Technology Corporation
24775 Crestview Court
Farmington Hills MI 48335-1507
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Phone: (248) 477-3900 x3362
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"David Mehringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Am running netscape 4.76 (had the same problem with 4.75). Sometimes,
when
> running applets which normally have no problems, netscape sucks all the
CPU
> time and the only way I can figure out how to deal with it is to kill it
> with signal 9. Anyone know a fix for this? Anyone tried Netscape 6?
> Thanks
>
> --
> David Mehringer, Ph.D. University of Illinois
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Center for Supercomputing
> Research Scientist, Applications/Department of Astronomy
> Software Applications Developer, 1002 W. Green St.
> BIMA Data Archivist Urbana, IL 61801 USA
> voice: 217 244 5468 fax: 217 244 7638
> http://monet.astro.uiuc.edu/~dmehring/dmehring.html
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mc, vga fonts, xterm and lines...
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:01:30 GMT
How do you get line-drawing characters to show for Midnight
Commander using vga or linux8x16 fonts in rxvt?
linux8x16 works in Konsole ok, but I use rxvt with fvwm2...
cordially, as always,
rm
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From: Mike McLennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turn on NumLock by default in future XFree86 ! ! !
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:22:36 +0100
Harlan Grove wrote:
>
> Seven of Nine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >It is truely amazing that the developers of XFree86 have not thought
> >this through.
> >In Windows, the NumLock is turned on and the LED is lit by default upon
> >boot, which is the way it should be.
> ...
> >obvious issue has been overlooked. NumLock should be turn on and
> >activated by *default* upon boot, just as seen in Windows.
> ...
>
> What Windows (or OS/2 or BeOS or . . .) does is irrelevant to Linux and X. X
> is used on more than Intel-based PCs and clones. It's not even necessary to
<snipped further 'opinion>
'Seven of Nine' <snigger> why not just ask the question -
'How do I boot with the NUMLOCK on' and save your opinion.
RTFM setleds & the Keyboard-Howto
Happy reading,
Mike
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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: c++ keyboard readout
Date: 29 Mar 2001 22:03:13 +0200
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Experimental Data wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> > In a c++ programme I wish to read the keyboard.
> > I was told it really was a cuestion about the os - although I dont
> > really know why. I use RH 6.2 and g++ to compile. Maybe one of you
> > know... Ivan
>
> It really has next to nothing to do with the OS.
Well, none of the methods you suggested will work on non-UNIX-like
OSs.
> ioctl(2), tty(4), and especially termios(3)
> . It is no fun, but I have
> done a lot of things with this.
Maybe ncurses is an option.
--
Stefano - Hodie quarto Kalendas Apriles MMI est
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From: "Kenny@BUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: jetdirect and linux.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:04:44 -0500
hello guys,
have any of you worked with hp jetdirect printers being shared through linux
or samba?
is it similar to setting up a remote smb printer attached to a win98 client.
does the jetdirect use netbios names? are the jetdirect printers independant
of the winNT or win98 computer running the jetdirect software?
thank you,
kenny.
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