Linux-Misc Digest #481, Volume #27 Fri, 30 Mar 01 00:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. ("Sam")
SCSI emulation on SuSE 7.0 ("Keith Marjerison")
wuftpd (SolarisCert)
LILO hangs (not in the usual way) (Joe)
Re: Help! Can't boot from floppy (Mike Sabin)
Re: What is the size of Linux 2.4.1 Kernel (J Sloan)
Re: mc, vga fonts, xterm and lines... (Yvan Loranger)
Re: Turn on NumLock by default in future XFree86 ! ! ! (Yvan Loranger)
Re: Help! Can't boot from floppy ("Hiawatha Bray")
Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. (Andrew DeFaria)
Re: Help! Can't boot from floppy (David Efflandt)
Re: message in shell (David Efflandt)
Re: LILO hangs (not in the usual way) (Dances With Crows)
Re: If you install rpm-4.0.2 on RedHat 6.2 ... (Alex)
Re: ntp4 a red herring? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: SCSI emulation on SuSE 7.0 (David Efflandt)
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From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:17:00 -0600
Sounds like a memory leak.
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"Ken Blake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ybPw6.2876$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > People who put their replies at the end of a post
> generally gets past over
> > by me. My time is valuable and I know what the thread is
> about, so to have
> > to scroll all the way to the bottom is a waste of time.
>
>
> People who put their replies at the beginning of a post
> generally get passed over by me. My time is valuable, and I
> read far too many threads to remember what most are about.
> To have to scroll down to the bottom to find out what the
> question is, then back up to the top to read the answer is a
> waste of time.
>
> --
> Ken Blake
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.suse
From: "Keith Marjerison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Keith Marjerison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI emulation on SuSE 7.0
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:25:36 GMT
Hello Again;
I have an IDE burner ( HP CDWriter+ ) and would like to use it in
Linux. I have gone through the directions in the SuSE Linux 7.0 Personal
edition 'Configuration' manual on page 122, and adjusted the item 'Append
line for hardware parameter' in 'LILO' and altered the file
'/etc/modules.conf'/ , but the emulation does not work. All I have done is
removed my CD burner as a CDRom.
My CD Burner is on ide1 slave with a CDRom as master.
I added 'hdd=ide-scsi' to 'Apend line for hardware parameter' and
saved my changes and exited 'YaST'.
I changed the line 'alias scsi_hostadapter off' to 'alias
scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi' in the file/etc/modules.conf'.
Thats all the manual says to do, but when I try to 'Configure'
'X-CD-Roast' it does not see the 'ide-scsi' drive emulation.
What have I missed?
Thanks in advance.
/>Keith Marjerison
/>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: SolarisCert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wuftpd
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:34:30 +0800
I have specified the following lines in /etc/ftpaccess
class all real,guest *
delete no all
When I ftp to that server with normal user account,
I still can delete my files, why?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe)
Subject: LILO hangs (not in the usual way)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:44:46 -0800
I have two physical disks, one with linux (redhat 7) at /dev/hdc1 and
one with NT at /dev/hda1. I can boot into linux fine with the rescue disk
but LILO hangs (stops after the first L) when trying to boot from the
hard drive. I checked the docs and it tells me that there should be an
error code when it stops after the first L, like L<err number>. There is
no error number, just a computer pretending to be a paperweight. Any
ideas?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Sabin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Help! Can't boot from floppy
Date: 30 Mar 2001 04:07:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe that the "mkbootdisk" command may help you.
On 30 Mar 2001 01:31:11 GMT, Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have copied a Linux boot image to floppy, but my computer refuses to
>boot from it. It starts running initrd.img and then says "boot failed." I
>tried two different boot disks, with the same result. Anybody know why?
>
>
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: What is the size of Linux 2.4.1 Kernel
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:08:20 GMT
Alan Po wrote:
> Dear all
>
> Would you tell me the size of Linux 2.4.1 kernel? Is it very large?
>
The compressed image is just over 600k -
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 661329 Mar 26 12:57 vmlinuz
However dmesg tells me the kernel occupies 878k of RAM -
Then there is the cumulative memory usage of the kernel modules -
# lsmod
Module Size Used by
sr_mod 12448 0 (autoclean)
cdrom 27008 0 (autoclean) [sr_mod]
isofs 18528 0 (autoclean)
iptable_filter 1824 0 (autoclean) (unused)
ip_nat_ftp 3280 0 (unused)
iptable_nat 13376 1 [ip_nat_ftp]
ip_conntrack_ftp 2016 0 (unused)
ip_conntrack 13440 2 [ip_nat_ftp iptable_nat
ip_conntrack_ftp]
ip_tables 10784 4 [iptable_filter iptable_nat]
scanner 6560 0 (unused)
tdfx 53328 1
ide-scsi 8080 0
scsi_mod 92720 2 [sr_mod ide-scsi]
autofs 10752 1 (autoclean)
eepro100 17072 2 (autoclean)
emu10k1 44880 0
mousedev 4160 0 (unused)
hid 12352 0 (unused)
input 3392 0 [mousedev hid]
usb-ohci 15472 0 (unused)
usbcore 51536 1 [scanner hid usb-ohci]
The compressed archive is just over 20 MB:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 20499361 Feb 21 17:00
linux-2.4.2.tar.bz2
However the directory it creates when uncompressed is much larger:
# du -sk linux
133632 linux
So the answer could be anywhere from 600k to 130 MB depending
on what you mean by "Linux" -
cu
Jup
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: mc, vga fonts, xterm and lines...
Date: 30 Mar 2001 04:14:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> How do you get line-drawing characters to show for Midnight
> Commander using vga or linux8x16 fonts in rxvt?
>
> linux8x16 works in Konsole ok, but I use rxvt with fvwm2...
Isn't there a switch for running mc under X? mc -x ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: Turn on NumLock by default in future XFree86 ! ! !
Date: 30 Mar 2001 04:19:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Mike McLennan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
>
> <snipped further 'opinion>
>
> 'Seven of Nine' <snigger> why not just ask the question -
> 'How do I boot with the NUMLOCK on' and save your opinion.
agree
> RTFM setleds & the Keyboard-Howto
setleds is for console only. xset may help.
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From: "Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Help! Can't boot from floppy
Date: 30 Mar 2001 04:26:40 GMT
Great! What is it and how does it work?
I already used rawrite to make a boot disk, and that didn't work. I'll try
anything once. Well, almost anything!
"Mike Sabin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I believe that the "mkbootdisk" command may help you.
>
>
> On 30 Mar 2001 01:31:11 GMT, Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have copied a Linux boot image to floppy, but my computer refuses to
> >boot from it. It starts running initrd.img and then says "boot failed."
I
> >tried two different boot disks, with the same result. Anybody know why?
> >
> >
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From: Andrew DeFaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:39:40 -0800
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Steve Lamb wrote:
> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> Gotta love people posting in anything other than ASCII.
Looks like ASCII to me! :-)
> >Steve Lamb wrote:
>
> >> 1: Most people's time is worth nothing as most people rarely do anything
> >> productive.
>
> >Totally false. The real value is in people and their time and how it it
> >spent. I find it amazing that you make this claim.
>
> I don't. If you looked at any given person's day you'd find that there is a lot of
>time spent doing nothing.
This is not the same as "most people rarely do anything productive".
> Anyone who claims that their time is too valuable to scroll or to trim or do other
>courtesy measures, like turning of HTML posting (it is an option, you know), is only
>fooling themself. Fact is it doesn't take that much time and anyone watching them
>for, oh, an hour or two can identify them doing nothing; plain old nothing.
Sure, for each single occurrence the amount of time is small. But it adds up. Some
people do not want to be bothered with the silly rules that others make up for their
own convenience. Some people have better things to do than to scroll around and trim
postings. Listen, for you and I, trimming postings is a snap. But for many, many
others it does take a lot of time and effort.
> Sure, the time is of value TO THEM, but that does not impart that it is valuable.
Sure it does. It's valuable to them. And really that's all that matters (to them).
Where's your courtesy?
> My comic collection is valuable to me, it is worthless to the world at large. I'm
>certainly not going to use my value of my items as a reasoning why I should be rude
>and inconsiderate to others.
Everybody values things differently. Part of being polite is to recognize that while
you may not value it, it may be very valuable to somebody else. Forcing your viewpoint
of what is valuable or not on others, and lambasting them for their choices of what is
valuable to them is by itself rude and inconsiderate.
> >> 2a: They have enough time to actually trim quotes.
>
> >This is irrelevant.
>
> It is relevant. They have the time therefore stating they don't have the time as an
>excuse for not doing it is bogus.
No it is not relevant. People place more value on their time than to spend it
painfully trimming things just to make you happy.
> >I can as easily say that Linux users are used to typing and editing a lot
> >since it's mostly character based, therefore Linux users are good typists and
> >see it as easy to trim, correct and quote, etc.
>
> Because it is.
Because it is easy for them. Have you ever watched a person who types with two fingers
searching for where the next letter is? Hey, to me playing guitar is easy. But I've
been doing it for a while. I do recognize that for most people playing guitar is very
difficult. You think everybody types like you. Your wrong!
> >Most people are not good typists or that well versed in the various editing
> >facilities offered by the tool at hand.
>
> Which is also not an excuse. Learn the tools or get out. Seems simple enough and
>is applied in many places.
Ah it's an "America, love it of leave it" attitude. You are the shining example of
tolerance and understanding I see. You can continue to look at it as an excuse. I'm
just trying to tell you what is. You can continue to ignore reality if you like.
> >Correct is a subjective definition.
>
> No, correct is not a subjective definition. It is an absolute definition. It is
>absolute in that the community had defined specific standards of behavior when
>communicating in this and other similar venues. It is then the responsility of those
>who come into these forums to learn and abide by the common guidelines and standards
>that were set. Any other behavior is incorrect. It is not a matter of who likes
>what. As I quoted in another post, RFC1855. Read it.
It is an agreement by a bunch of people long ago. As such I would think that there are
some who do not agree.
> >People post and quote according to their style. Some people like to bottom
> >post (I don't like that posting style because it usually means that I need to
> >scroll to the bottom first then scroll up to where the person started their
> >response). Some people like to top post. This is good because what you need
> >to read is presented first. However I like to quote and post inline trimming
> >the unnecessary stuff. But then again I can type fairly quickly and trimming
> >stuff is easy for me.
>
> Some people like to eat while in their underwear, burp loudly after very 5th bite,
>never use their napkin and eat with their figures. Something tells me, though, that
>they would be thrown out of nearly every restaurant they ever wanted to dine in
>unless they decided to clothe themselves and learn some manners.
The Internet is not a restaurant. Top posting is not the same as burping, etc.
> The same applies to newsgroups, email, and other forms of electronic
> communications. Community standards have been set, have been written down. As the
>NEWCOMER to that community it is up to you (and others) to learn and abide by those
>standards. If you fail to do so, don't be surprised when you're called an uncooth
>barbarian and politely shown the door.
Similar social conduct and conventions of behavior have been established in many
social situations. And they are constantly changing and being challenged as society
changes. Be they long hair of the 60's, strange clothing, body piercing, work attire,
school uniforms, etc. We have seen many times that many of the "rules" or conventions
are not necessary and that people want to be free to express themselves. I mean don't
you often here of the concept often mentioned with the internet of information
freedom, etc. Why then do you hold so steadfastly to such restrictive and relatively
arbitrary rules of conduct?
> >> Give your above lack of common courtesy in trimming quotes and proper order
> >> of posting I can only assume you're too busy trying to keep your OS running
> >> instead of actually using it to do productive work.
>
> >Totally invalid assumption. Doesn't follow at all (well perhaps in your
> >obviously biased mind...)
>
> It follows in my sarcastic mind since the original poster was making jabs at another
>OS I was simply returning the favor and using his bad posting manners as a tool to do
>so.
Try being less sarcastic!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Help! Can't boot from floppy
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:47:07 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 30 Mar 2001 01:31:11 GMT, Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have copied a Linux boot image to floppy, but my computer refuses to
>boot from it. It starts running initrd.img and then says "boot failed." I
>tried two different boot disks, with the same result. Anybody know why?
Floppies for boot images must be perfect (no bad sectors) because boot
data is written to them sequentially (no file system). So 'format a: /u'
them in DOS or Windows first and make sure thay have no bad sectors.
And I believe that you have to use rawrite when booted to DOS (not a DOS
window or restart in DOS mode). You may need to use your Win startup
floppy for that (or at least that is the only way I can boot to DOS with
Win98se).
PS: The boot floppy that came with my Mandrake 7.0 was bad and would not
boot, so I had to make another one.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: message in shell
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:58:18 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:57:50 +0200, fabienne hadkova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hi
>there is something I have done before but I don't remember the (very easy)
>syntax.
>when I log in with telnet to another sever and use the command 'who', I can
>see who else is on this server.
>There is a way to send a message to somebody to his shell.
>I don't remember how it's done, can somebody help?
>thanks
>fabienne
I have not used 'talk' lately, but a free shell I am on uses 'ytalk' which
admin there says is better. 'ytalk username' to the other user that you
want to talk and what they should do to connect. When you connect, it
comes up in a split screen so you type in the top half and other user is
bottom half.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: LILO hangs (not in the usual way)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Mar 2001 04:57:57 GMT
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:44:46 -0800, Joe staggered into the Black Sun and
said:
> I have two physical disks, one with linux (redhat 7) at /dev/hdc1 and
>one with NT at /dev/hda1. I can boot into linux fine with the rescue disk
>but LILO hangs (stops after the first L) when trying to boot from the
>hard drive. I checked the docs and it tells me that there should be an
>error code when it stops after the first L, like L<err number>. There is
>no error number, just a computer pretending to be a paperweight. Any
>ideas?
AFAIK, LILO has a very hard time booting things that are not located on
/dev/hda or /dev/hdb. This has to do with the peculiarities of the PC
BIOS--LILO uses the BIOS to read the kernel image, after all, and there
are some BIOSes that can only see hda and hdb. Check
/usr/share/doc/packages/lilo/README very carefully. If you have a FAT
partition anywhere on /dev/hda, you should be able to put the kernel
image on that and get things going, or you can switch hdc and hdb. The
second option might be the best....
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: If you install rpm-4.0.2 on RedHat 6.2 ...
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:16:34 -0500
Chris Coyle wrote:
<snip>
> To fix this I had to install the gnorpm source rpm (I found
> gnorpm-0.95.1-5.6x.src.rpm)
> apply a couple of patches (included), fix a line of source code
> (strange) and then recompile.
> After that it works fine.
>
> Chris.
I tried to compile the source code (gnorpm-0.95.1-5.6x.src.rpm).
I got this:
RPM build errors:
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.97472 (%build)
Can you tell me what you have done to make it work? What did you modify
in the source file? (patches?)
Sincerely.
Alex.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: ntp4 a red herring?
Date: 30 Mar 2001 00:03:49 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pumpkinhead wrote:
> And if this software doesn't work, what other options do I have?
The previous version, xntp3 (http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/).
Or chrony (http://www.go.to/chrony).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: SCSI emulation on SuSE 7.0
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 05:08:17 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Keith Marjerison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello Again;
> I have an IDE burner ( HP CDWriter+ ) and would like to use it in
>Linux. I have gone through the directions in the SuSE Linux 7.0 Personal
>edition 'Configuration' manual on page 122, and adjusted the item 'Append
>line for hardware parameter' in 'LILO' and altered the file
>'/etc/modules.conf'/ , but the emulation does not work. All I have done is
>removed my CD burner as a CDRom.
> My CD Burner is on ide1 slave with a CDRom as master.
> I added 'hdd=ide-scsi' to 'Apend line for hardware parameter' and
>saved my changes and exited 'YaST'.
> I changed the line 'alias scsi_hostadapter off' to 'alias
>scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi' in the file/etc/modules.conf'.
> Thats all the manual says to do, but when I try to 'Configure'
>'X-CD-Roast' it does not see the 'ide-scsi' drive emulation.
> What have I missed?
> Thanks in advance.
>/>Keith Marjerison
>/>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The problem might be that ATAPI cdrom support is built into the kernel,
therefore ide-scsi does not work.
I had good results with both laptop and main pc by reconfiguring the
kernel with ATAPI cdrom as a module (in case I boot a different kernel)
and compile SCSI emulation (scsi-ide), SCSI support (scsi_mod) and SCSI
generic support (sg) into the kernel instead of modules. SCSI cdrom
support can still be a module (sr_mod) which should autoload if you mount
your writer (/dev/scd#) as a cdrom.
Then see if it shows up in /proc/scsi/scsi when your reboot the new
kernel.
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