> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-mmc-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-mmc-
> ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Nath, Arindam
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:48 AM
> To: Subhash Jadavani; c...@laptop.org
> Cc: zhangfei....@gmail.com; prak...@marvell.com; linux-
> m...@vger.kernel.org; Su, Henry; Lu, Aaron; anath....@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 06/12] mmc: sd: add support for uhs bus speed
> mode selection
> 
> Hi Subhash,
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Subhash Jadavani [mailto:subha...@codeaurora.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:44 AM
> > To: Nath, Arindam; c...@laptop.org
> > Cc: zhangfei....@gmail.com; prak...@marvell.com; linux-
> > m...@vger.kernel.org; Su, Henry; Lu, Aaron; anath....@gmail.com
> > Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 06/12] mmc: sd: add support for uhs bus speed
> > mode selection
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: linux-mmc-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-mmc-
> > > ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Nath, Arindam
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:35 AM
> > > To: Subhash Jadavani; c...@laptop.org
> > > Cc: zhangfei....@gmail.com; prak...@marvell.com; linux-
> > > m...@vger.kernel.org; Su, Henry; Lu, Aaron; anath....@gmail.com
> > > Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 06/12] mmc: sd: add support for uhs bus
> speed
> > > mode selection
> > >
> > > Hi Subhash,
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Subhash Jadavani [mailto:subha...@codeaurora.org]
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:13 PM
> > > > To: Nath, Arindam; c...@laptop.org
> > > > Cc: zhangfei....@gmail.com; prak...@marvell.com; linux-
> > > > m...@vger.kernel.org; Su, Henry; Lu, Aaron; anath....@gmail.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 06/12] mmc: sd: add support for uhs bus
> > speed
> > > > mode selection
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Arindam Nath [mailto:anath....@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Arindam
> > > > > Nath
> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:03 PM
> > > > > To: c...@laptop.org
> > > > > Cc: zhangfei....@gmail.com; prak...@marvell.com;
> > > > > subha...@codeaurora.org; linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org;
> > > henry...@amd.com;
> > > > > aaron...@amd.com; anath....@gmail.com; Arindam Nath
> > > > > Subject: [PATCH v2 06/12] mmc: sd: add support for uhs bus
> speed
> > > mode
> > > > > selection
> > > > >
> > > > > This patch adds support for setting UHS-I bus speed mode during
> > > UHS-I
> > > > > initialization procedure. Since both the host and card can
> > support
> > > > > more than one bus speed, we select the highest speed based on
> > both
> > > of
> > > > > their capabilities. First we set the bus speed mode for the
> card
> > > > using
> > > > > CMD6 mode 1, and then we program the host controller to support
> > the
> > > > > required speed mode. We also set High Speed Enable in case one
> of
> > > the
> > > > > UHS-I modes is selected. Since MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR25 is same as
> > > > > MMC_TIMING_SD_HS, we don't need to set the SDHCI_CTRL_HISPD
> flag
> > > for
> > > > > UHS SDR25 again. We also take care to reset SD clock before
> > setting
> > > > > UHS mode in the Host Control2 register, and then re-enable it
> as
> > > per
> > > > > the Host Controller spec v3.00. We set the clock frequency for
> > the
> > > > > UHS-I mode selected.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Arindam Nath <arindam.n...@amd.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  drivers/mmc/core/sd.c    |   91
> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >  drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c |   32 +++++++++++++++-
> > > > >  drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.h |    5 +++
> > > > >  include/linux/mmc/card.h |   16 ++++++++
> > > > >  include/linux/mmc/host.h |    4 ++
> > > > >  5 files changed, 146 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/mmc/core/sd.c b/drivers/mmc/core/sd.c
> > > > > index f6a4fab..ec0d8e6 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/mmc/core/sd.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/mmc/core/sd.c
> > > > > @@ -464,6 +464,92 @@ static int sd_select_driver_type(struct
> > > mmc_card
> > > > > *card, u8 *status)
> > > > >         return 0;
> > > > >  }
> > > > >
> > > > > +static int sd_set_bus_speed_mode(struct mmc_card *card, u8
> > > *status)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +       unsigned int bus_speed, timing;
> > > > > +       int err;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       /*
> > > > > +        * If the host doesn't support any of the UHS-I modes,
> > fallback
> > > > > on
> > > > > +        * default speed.
> > > > > +        */
> > > > > +       if (!(card->host->caps & (MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR12 |
> > MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR25 |
> > > > > +           MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR50 | MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR104 |
> > MMC_CAP_UHS_DDR50)))
> > > > > +               return 0;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       if (card->host->caps & MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR104) {
> > > > > +               if (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> SD_MODE_UHS_SDR104)
> > {
> > > > > +                       bus_speed = UHS_SDR104_BUS_SPEED;
> > > > > +                       timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR104;
> > > > > +                       card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr =
> UHS_SDR104_MAX_DTR;
> > > > > +               } else if (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> > SD_MODE_UHS_SDR50)
> > > > > {
> > > > > +                       bus_speed = UHS_SDR50_BUS_SPEED;
> > > > > +                       timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR50;
> > > > > +                       card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr =
> UHS_SDR50_MAX_DTR;
> > > > > +               } else if (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> > SD_MODE_UHS_DDR50)
> > > > > {
> > > > > +                       bus_speed = UHS_DDR50_BUS_SPEED;
> > > > > +                       timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_DDR50;
> > > > > +                       card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr =
> UHS_DDR50_MAX_DTR;
> > > > > +               } else if (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> > SD_MODE_UHS_SDR25)
> > > > > {
> > > > > +                       bus_speed = UHS_SDR25_BUS_SPEED;
> > > > > +                       timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR25;
> > > > > +                       card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr =
> UHS_SDR25_MAX_DTR;
> > > > > +               }
> > > >
> > > > I would not agree that if Host cap is set to MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR104
> > > implies
> > > > that
> > > > DDR50 mode is supported by host. There may be a case where host
> > > > controller
> > > > only support SDR timing modes.
> > > > Basically if host should advertise all the supported modes
> (SDR104,
> > > > SDR50,
> > > > SDR25, SDR12 & DDR) by caps and then we should choose the highest
> > > > performance mode depending on both the card and host's highest
> > > > performance
> > > > mode.
> > > >
> > > > So this should be the check:
> > > >
> > > >   if ((card->host->caps & MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR104 &&
> > > > (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode & SD_MODE_UHS_SDR104)) {
> > > >                   bus_speed = UHS_SDR104_BUS_SPEED;
> > > >                   timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR104;
> > > >                   card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr = UHS_SDR104_MAX_DTR;
> > > >   } else if ((card->host->caps & MMC_CAP_UHS_DDR50 &&
> > > > (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode & SD_MODE_UHS_DDR50)) {
> > > >                   bus_speed = UHS_DDR50_BUS_SPEED;
> > > >                   timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_DDR50;
> > > >                   card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr = UHS_DDR50_MAX_DTR;
> > > >   } else if ((card->host->caps & MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR50 &&
> > > > (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode & SD_MODE_UHS_SDR50)) {
> > > >                   bus_speed = UHS_SDR50_BUS_SPEED;
> > > >                   timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR50;
> > > >                   card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr = UHS_SDR50_MAX_DTR;
> > > >   } else if ((card->host->caps & MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR25 &&
> > > > (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode & SD_MODE_UHS_SDR25)) {
> > > >                   bus_speed = UHS_SDR50_BUS_SPEED;
> > > >                   timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR25;
> > > >                   card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr = UHS_SDR25_MAX_DTR;
> > > >   } else if ((card->host->caps & MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR12 &&
> > > > (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode & SD_MODE_UHS_SDR12)) {
> > > >                   bus_speed = UHS_SDR12_BUS_SPEED;
> > > >                   timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR12;
> > > >                   card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr = UHS_SDR12_MAX_DTR;
> > > >   }
> > >
> > > A host capable of operating at a higher bus speed mode should be
> able
> > > to support cards with a lower bus speed mode. In case of your
> > > conditions checks above, you are checking for the exact match for
> the
> > > bus speed modes, otherwise you will fall back on using default bus
> > > speed mode, thus performance loss.
> >
> > Why should we implicitly assume that host supporting SDR104 mode
> would
> > also
> > support DDR50 mode? Is there any spec. which says so? If not then we
> > should
> > rely on host capability to take the decision. DDR50 would require
> > different
> > timing implementation on the host side and host may choose not to
> > implement
> > DDR50 timing support then?
> >
> > I would agree that host supporting SDR104 mode should also be
> > supporting
> > SDR50/SDR25/SDR12 modes but it may not be true for DDR50 mode.
> 
> Please refer to footnote of table 3-5 of the Physical Layer spec v3.01.
> It says:
> 
> "The card supports a UHS-I mode shall support all lower UHS-I modes."
> 
> So if this is true for card, doesn't the same apply to host?

Yes, this is the exact point I am stretching. Spec. never says the same
thing for host so we should not assume it. we already have luxury to use
host caps then why should we assume something which may not be correct?

> 
> Thanks,
> Arindam
> 
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Arindam
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Subhash
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > +       } else if (card->host->caps & MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR50) {
> > > > > +               if ((card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> SD_MODE_UHS_SDR104)
> > ||
> > > > > +                   (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> SD_MODE_UHS_SDR50))
> > {
> > > > > +                       bus_speed = UHS_SDR50_BUS_SPEED;
> > > > > +                       timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR50;
> > > > > +                       card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr =
> UHS_SDR50_MAX_DTR;
> > > > > +               } else if (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> > SD_MODE_UHS_DDR50)
> > > > > {
> > > > > +                       bus_speed = UHS_DDR50_BUS_SPEED;
> > > > > +                       timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_DDR50;
> > > > > +                       card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr =
> UHS_DDR50_MAX_DTR;
> > > > > +               } else if (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> > SD_MODE_UHS_SDR25)
> > > > > {
> > > > > +                       bus_speed = UHS_SDR25_BUS_SPEED;
> > > > > +                       timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR25;
> > > > > +                       card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr =
> UHS_SDR25_MAX_DTR;
> > > > > +               }
> > > > > +       } else if (card->host->caps & MMC_CAP_UHS_DDR50) {
> > > > > +               if ((card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> SD_MODE_UHS_SDR104)
> > ||
> > > > > +                   (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> SD_MODE_UHS_SDR50)
> > ||
> > > > > +                   (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> SD_MODE_UHS_DDR50))
> > {
> > > > > +                       bus_speed = UHS_DDR50_BUS_SPEED;
> > > > > +                       timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_DDR50;
> > > > > +                       card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr =
> UHS_DDR50_MAX_DTR;
> > > > > +               } else if (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> > SD_MODE_UHS_SDR25)
> > > > > {
> > > > > +                       bus_speed = UHS_SDR25_BUS_SPEED;
> > > > > +                       timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR25;
> > > > > +                       card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr =
> UHS_SDR25_MAX_DTR;
> > > > > +               }
> > > > > +       } else if (card->host->caps & MMC_CAP_UHS_SDR25) {
> > > > > +               if ((card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> SD_MODE_UHS_SDR104)
> > ||
> > > > > +                   (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> SD_MODE_UHS_SDR50)
> > ||
> > > > > +                   (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> SD_MODE_UHS_DDR50)
> > ||
> > > > > +                   (card->sw_caps.uhs_bus_mode &
> SD_MODE_UHS_SDR25))
> > {
> > > > > +                       bus_speed = UHS_SDR25_BUS_SPEED;
> > > > > +                       timing = MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR25;
> > > > > +                       card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr =
> UHS_SDR25_MAX_DTR;
> > > > > +               }
> > > > > +       }
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       err = mmc_sd_switch(card, 1, 0, bus_speed, status);
> > > > > +       if (err)
> > > > > +               return err;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       if ((status[16] & 0xF) != bus_speed)
> > > > > +               printk(KERN_WARNING "%s: Problem setting bus
> speed
> > > > > mode!\n",
> > > > > +                       mmc_hostname(card->host));
> > > > > +       else {
> > > > > +               if (bus_speed) {
> > > > > +                       mmc_set_timing(card->host, timing);
> > > > > +                       mmc_set_clock(card->host,
> > > > card->sw_caps.uhs_max_dtr);
> > > > > +               }
> > > > > +       }
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       return 0;
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > >  /*
> > > > >   * UHS-I specific initialization procedure
> > > > >   */
> > > > > @@ -499,6 +585,11 @@ static int mmc_sd_init_uhs_card(struct
> > > mmc_card
> > > > > *card)
> > > > >
> > > > >         /* Set the driver strength for the card */
> > > > >         err = sd_select_driver_type(card, status);
> > > > > +       if (err)
> > > > > +               goto out;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       /* Set bus speed mode of the card */
> > > > > +       err = sd_set_bus_speed_mode(card, status);
> > > > >
> > > > >  out:
> > > > >         kfree(status);
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c
> b/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c
> > > > > index 5d3bb11..f127fa2 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c
> > > > > @@ -1278,7 +1278,13 @@ static void sdhci_set_ios(struct
> mmc_host
> > > > *mmc,
> > > > > struct mmc_ios *ios)
> > > > >                 ctrl &= ~SDHCI_CTRL_HISPD;
> > > > >
> > > > >         if (host->version >= SDHCI_SPEC_300) {
> > > > > -               u16 ctrl_2;
> > > > > +               u16 clk, ctrl_2;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +               /* In case of UHS-I modes, set High Speed
> Enable */
> > > > > +               if ((ios->timing == MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR50) ||
> > > > > +                   (ios->timing == MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR104) ||
> > > > > +                   (ios->timing == MMC_TIMING_UHS_DDR50))
> > > > > +                       ctrl |= SDHCI_CTRL_HISPD;
> > > > >
> > > > >                 ctrl_2 = sdhci_readw(host,
> SDHCI_HOST_CONTROL2);
> > > > >                 if (!(ctrl_2 & SDHCI_CTRL_PRESET_VAL_ENABLE)) {
> > > > > @@ -1300,7 +1306,6 @@ static void sdhci_set_ios(struct mmc_host
> > > *mmc,
> > > > > struct mmc_ios *ios)
> > > > >                          * need to reset SD Clock Enable before
> > changing
> > > > High
> > > > >                          * Speed Enable to avoid generating
> clock
> > gliches.
> > > > >                          */
> > > > > -                       u16 clk;
> > > > >
> > > > >                         /* Reset SD Clock Enable */
> > > > >                         clk = sdhci_readw(host,
> SDHCI_CLOCK_CONTROL);
> > > > > @@ -1313,6 +1318,29 @@ static void sdhci_set_ios(struct
> mmc_host
> > > > *mmc,
> > > > > struct mmc_ios *ios)
> > > > >                         clk |= SDHCI_CLOCK_CARD_EN;
> > > > >                         sdhci_writew(host, clk,
> SDHCI_CLOCK_CONTROL);
> > > > >                 }
> > > > > +
> > > > > +               ctrl_2 = sdhci_readw(host,
> SDHCI_HOST_CONTROL2);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +               /* Select Bus Speed Mode for host */
> > > > > +               if (ios->timing == MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR25)
> > > > > +                       ctrl_2 |= SDHCI_CTRL_UHS_SDR25;
> > > > > +               else if (ios->timing == MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR50)
> > > > > +                       ctrl_2 |= SDHCI_CTRL_UHS_SDR50;
> > > > > +               else if (ios->timing == MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR104)
> > > > > +                       ctrl_2 |= SDHCI_CTRL_UHS_SDR104;
> > > > > +               else if (ios->timing == MMC_TIMING_UHS_DDR50)
> > > > > +                       ctrl_2 |= SDHCI_CTRL_UHS_DDR50;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +               /* Reset SD Clock Enable */
> > > > > +               clk = sdhci_readw(host, SDHCI_CLOCK_CONTROL);
> > > > > +               clk &= ~SDHCI_CLOCK_CARD_EN;
> > > > > +               sdhci_writew(host, clk, SDHCI_CLOCK_CONTROL);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +               sdhci_writew(host, ctrl_2,
> SDHCI_HOST_CONTROL2);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +               /* Re-enable SD Clock */
> > > > > +               clk |= SDHCI_CLOCK_CARD_EN;
> > > > > +               sdhci_writew(host, clk, SDHCI_CLOCK_CONTROL);
> > > > >         } else
> > > > >                 sdhci_writeb(host, ctrl, SDHCI_HOST_CONTROL1);
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.h
> b/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.h
> > > > > index a407b5b..5bf244d 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.h
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.h
> > > > > @@ -150,6 +150,11 @@
> > > > >  #define SDHCI_ACMD12_ERR       0x3C
> > > > >
> > > > >  #define SDHCI_HOST_CONTROL2            0x3E
> > > > > +#define  SDHCI_CTRL_UHS_SDR12          0x0000
> > > > > +#define  SDHCI_CTRL_UHS_SDR25          0x0001
> > > > > +#define  SDHCI_CTRL_UHS_SDR50          0x0002
> > > > > +#define  SDHCI_CTRL_UHS_SDR104         0x0003
> > > > > +#define  SDHCI_CTRL_UHS_DDR50          0x0004
> > > > >  #define  SDHCI_CTRL_VDD_180            0x0008
> > > > >  #define  SDHCI_CTRL_DRV_TYPE_B         0x0000
> > > > >  #define  SDHCI_CTRL_DRV_TYPE_A         0x0010
> > > > > diff --git a/include/linux/mmc/card.h
> b/include/linux/mmc/card.h
> > > > > index 2d7f7a3..0b24c41 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/linux/mmc/card.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/linux/mmc/card.h
> > > > > @@ -75,7 +75,23 @@ struct sd_ssr {
> > > > >
> > > > >  struct sd_switch_caps {
> > > > >         unsigned int            hs_max_dtr;
> > > > > +       unsigned int            uhs_max_dtr;
> > > > > +#define UHS_SDR104_MAX_DTR     208000000
> > > > > +#define UHS_SDR50_MAX_DTR      100000000
> > > > > +#define UHS_DDR50_MAX_DTR      50000000
> > > > > +#define UHS_SDR25_MAX_DTR      50000000
> > > > >         unsigned int            uhs_bus_mode;
> > > > > +#define UHS_SDR12_BUS_SPEED    0
> > > > > +#define UHS_SDR25_BUS_SPEED    1
> > > > > +#define UHS_SDR50_BUS_SPEED    2
> > > > > +#define UHS_SDR104_BUS_SPEED   3
> > > > > +#define UHS_DDR50_BUS_SPEED    4
> > > > > +
> > > > > +#define SD_MODE_UHS_SDR12      (1 << UHS_SDR12_BUS_SPEED)
> > > > > +#define SD_MODE_UHS_SDR25      (1 << UHS_SDR25_BUS_SPEED)
> > > > > +#define SD_MODE_UHS_SDR50      (1 << UHS_SDR50_BUS_SPEED)
> > > > > +#define SD_MODE_UHS_SDR104     (1 << UHS_SDR104_BUS_SPEED)
> > > > > +#define SD_MODE_UHS_DDR50      (1 << UHS_DDR50_BUS_SPEED)
> > > > >         unsigned int            uhs_drv_type;
> > > > >  #define SD_DRIVER_TYPE_B       0x01
> > > > >  #define SD_DRIVER_TYPE_A       0x02
> > > > > diff --git a/include/linux/mmc/host.h
> b/include/linux/mmc/host.h
> > > > > index bc2121e..4dfff6d 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/linux/mmc/host.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/linux/mmc/host.h
> > > > > @@ -50,6 +50,10 @@ struct mmc_ios {
> > > > >  #define MMC_TIMING_LEGACY      0
> > > > >  #define MMC_TIMING_MMC_HS      1
> > > > >  #define MMC_TIMING_SD_HS       2
> > > > > +#define MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR25   MMC_TIMING_SD_HS
> > > > > +#define MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR50   3
> > > > > +#define MMC_TIMING_UHS_SDR104  4
> > > > > +#define MMC_TIMING_UHS_DDR50   5
> > > > >
> > > > >         unsigned char   ddr;                    /* dual data
> rate used
> > */
> > > > >
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