If the packets ever reach the host, it's not a routing loop. 

How do you know the second host is actually on the same network? You can't
be sure of that unless you know their netmask legnth.

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Sami Honkonen wrote:

> The delay to my remote host zort.org (194.29.194.4) is huge, so I tried
> tracerouting:
> 
> ---
> 
> traceroute to 194.29.194.4 (194.29.194.4), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
>  1  c1s15.saunalahti.net (195.197.52.215)  144.165 ms  149.706 ms 
> 149.760 ms
>  2  c1r5i.saunalahti.net (195.197.52.129)  149.880 ms  129.818 ms 
> 119.897 ms
>  3  195.197.213.170 (195.197.213.170)  169.872 ms  177.501 ms  152.214
> ms
>  4  * * *
>  5  * * *
>  6  * * *
>  7  * * *
>  8  * * *
>  9  * * *
> 10  * 195.197.213.170 (195.197.213.170)  1420.498 ms !H *
> 11  * * *
> 12  * * *
> 13  * * *
> 14  * * *
> 15  * 195.197.213.170 (195.197.213.170)  680.491 ms !H *
> 16  * * *
> 17  * * *
> 18  * * *
> 19  * * *
> 20  * * *
> 21  * * *
> 22  * * *
> 23  * * *
> 24  * * *
> 25  * * *
> 26  * * *
> 27  * * 195.197.213.170 (195.197.213.170)  1639.996 ms !H
> 28  * 195.197.213.170 (195.197.213.170)  1450.038 ms !H *
> 29  195.197.213.170 (195.197.213.170)  810.602 ms !H * *
> 30  * * *
> 
> ----
> 
> Looks like a routing loop, right?
> 
> Well, I tracerouted to a computer in the same IP block and behind the
> exact same routers.
> 
> ----
> 
> traceroute to 194.29.194.2 (194.29.194.2), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
>  1  c1s15.saunalahti.net (195.197.52.215)  133.851 ms  139.729 ms 
> 139.785 ms
>  2  c1r5i.saunalahti.net (195.197.52.129)  119.817 ms  119.828 ms 
> 120.299 ms
>  3  195.197.213.170 (195.197.213.170)  139.476 ms  159.751 ms  149.551
> ms
>  4  kuvakomppania.fi (194.29.194.2)  140.850 ms  136.571 ms  199.467 ms
> 
> ----
> 
> So, that seems to prove it can't be a routing loop, right?
> 
> Well, what is wrong with my remote host's configuration, that I can't
> see. It worked fine before my ISP changed their IP block.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas? This is pretty urgent.
> 
> --
> Yours truly,
> Sami Honkonen, impale,
> System Administrator of zort.org
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://impale.zort.org
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