Chuck, Most of the window managers have web sites where you can get sources and info. You might find that useful when trying to decide which one you like best.
Mozilla is actually Netscape 6 (for practical purposes, anyhow). AFAIK, Netscape is (or at least was) based on the same code right back in the beginning. Gnome and KDE _aren't_ window managers. They are, well, basically a nice pretty front end that interacts with the window manager. They each work slightly better with some window managers than others. For instance, Gnome works (or at least Gnome 1.4 works) really well with Sawfish, and if you install a default Red Hat 7.x distribution, you get XFree86, Sawfish and Gnome. If you install a different distribution, you'll probably get a different combination (KDE on top of Enlightenment on top of XFree86, for example). This modular approach is a little confusing some times, but it has the nice advantage that you can choose the feature you want from the behaviour of your windows (such as the type of buttons you get and how iconification works) and then separately decide on the type of bar (taskbar, stat menu in windows) you want and the menus it creates for you. Check out www.gnome.org for gnome and www.kde.org for the desktop stuff you can get. You can also get some window managers from them. Incidentally, you don't _need_ a lot of the software you can get this way - just directly configuring X will give you access to most of the stuff. But you certainly need _some_ kind of window manager for it to be useful. Paul. On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 12:47, chuck gelm wrote: > Hi, Paul: > > Thanks. I have seen fwvm mentioned somewhere in my distribution. > I am using Slackware8.0. I'll browse the directories that start > with 'x' for files that match your suggestions. > > I've been using Netscape Communicator on Windows o/s for several > years, so I plan to try it first just because it might be familiar. > I believe Mozilla has been around for a decade or so, so it would > be another browser I'd try. ;-) > > IIRC, Gnome has been mentioned more often than KDE, when I heard > about applications I was interested in and they required a GUI, > so I'd try Gnome before KDE. > > So, Gnome & KDE are not only window managers, but also tool > packages too. :-| > > I am familiar with tarballs (.tgz .tar.gz) and have installed > and compiled several applications. I am comfortable with that > method of packaging. ;-) > > Regards, Chuck > > > Paul Furness wrote: > > > > To get much nice stuff out of the GUI, you really need to have a decent > > window manager running, as that will give you the ability to move > > windows around, have virtual desktops and set up menus on mouse-clicks. > > This is another component that you run on top of X. There are so many > > around that it's hard to pick one - sawfish, fvwm2, enlightenment, > > fluxbox, olwm, afterstep... the list is a long one. > > > > On top of the window manager, you might want to look at desktops - KDE > > or Gnome - which give you a set of tools which work more or less > > together. > > > > Netscape (or better, Mozilla) are separate packages which you can get > > from a number of places (you could start with www.mozilla.org or > > www.netscape.com). If you have a package manager (RPM is the most > > ubiquitous) then you can get the software pre-packaged in a simple to > > install format. Even if you don't, the install for Mozilla is pretty > > easy from tarball. > > > > Paul. > > > > On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 15:15, Chuck Gelm wrote: > > > Howdy, Y'all: > > > > > > I am trying to 'upgrade' from 'console' to GUI. > > > I think I have successfully installed XFree86/4.2.1. > > > I can 'startx' and I get a monochrome desktop with > > > a tiny clock and three windows; 'login', 'xterm', and 'xterm'. > > > I can toggle among three resolutions. > > > > > > I want to run a browser, preferably Netscape > > > (preferably v4.61 if available for linux). > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > Where do I go for help to get from where I am to where I want to be? > > > > > > Regards, Chuck > > > - > > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in > > > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > > Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs > > > > > -- > > Paul Furness > > > > Systems Manager > > > > 2+2=5 for extremely large values of 2. > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs > -- Paul Furness Systems Manager 2+2=5 for extremely large values of 2. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs
