At 02:04 PM 6/14/2003 +0530, Sanjay Arora wrote:
I am a new user to this list from Amritsar, India.

I have a home network on internal IP 192.168.x.x, connected through GW 172.16.0.141 to a cable (Ethernet Cat 5 Cable) ISP having internal IP network 172.16.x.x and giving Internet connectivity through GW 172.16.0.1, which he claims is firewalled (though I doubt they are competent at it, as they could not find mac address in a broadcast packet...IMHO they are using a consultant, who they are unwilling to call again n again...maybe due to his charges).

My GW 172.16.0.141 is a multihomed linux box with Linux Firewall Project firewall on it (installed it a few days ago and am still in the process of understanding it). Firewall is generating huge logs about a Martian packet being detected having IP 192.16.1.101 on eth1 which is 172.16.0.141 ie external interface. It also lists Ethernet II header giving hardware address of the broadcast packet.

I am not competent enough to compile a sniffer yet on Linux but I plugged a windows machine directly on to the ISPs cable and sniffed the Martian packets...I am listing them here, please advise if this packet is having a spoofed IP address (ie is a virus or hacker transmission) or if seems to be a genuine DHCP broadcast. If DHCP broadcast...how do I find out if it is coming from the ISP's Internet GW or from his internal network.

Maybe I am wrong but I don't think its a genuine DHCP broadcast (from someone like myself who has connected an inner 192.168.x.x network to the cable ISP's wire) as I am getting no other packets except these broadcast ones...I am sure a leakage would not be discriminating and leak only DHCP broadcast. But then I am a linux newbie.

I believe I can use the arp command to find out the MAC addresses of machines on isp's network but i do not know the various issues involved and the syntax.

Please help. One decoded & several undecoded packets are given below.

With my thanks in advance
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I'm not familiar with the sniffer you used (so the *format* of the decoded data is not familiar to me), and I am not up to decoding hex by hand this morning, but the decoded packet appears genuine. Barring unusual setups, DHCP broadcast packets do not cross routers, so it should be from the same ISP "LAN" as the one you are on. Here are two things to check:


1. How often are the Martians coming in?

2. Are they all coming from the same MAC address?

If the answer to (2) is YES, then this machine requests a DHCP lease from time to time. What then? Depends a bit on the answer to (1); I see two possibilities.

One possibility: it never gets one. (Perhaps he is trying to connect 2 hosts but is restricted to 1 IP address. You don't tell me enough about your ISP for me to guess about *how* your ISP might restrict address assignment; ISPs who deliver their services over Cat5 cable are not in my experience, so I could only guess wildly.) Since it does not get a lease, it lacks a usable routing table and can only send broadcast packets (which is why that is all you ever see).

Second possibility: it does get a lease, and its further transmissions use a 172.16.1.d address so are no longer Martians. So you don't see them until the next time it requests a lease from the Martian address. (Why does it switch back to 192.168.1.101? Maybe it's a laptop that moves between 2 networks.)

The "arp" command does not do what you think. It checks your host's (in this case, I suppose your router's) arp table. It does not itself generate arp queries. To check MAC addresses on a LAN, one method is to broadcast ping the LAN (or run a program that quickly pings each address), then use "arp" to check what IP addresses have valid MAC addresses associated with them in the arp cache.

In any case, I would not worry about this problem. Your firewall is stopping these packets, just as it should. Even if it is an attack, it is one you are not vulnerable to, since your firewall will not itself be listening on port 67 on its external interface, and the RFC1918 firewall rule should be DENYing (not REJECTing) these Martians, leaving you properly stealthy.



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