What if someone hacks belkin's web server and puts an browser exploit on
the page which causes the computer to be infected with a virus maybe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] DOSing belkin and sco?  


This is a clear ethics violation by the rules taught in my Computer
Professionalism class. The Engineers who designed and built it should be
required to re-qualify for their engineering certification, making
special point to re-read the ethics qualifications. If I designed a
elevator that sometimes took you to the floor I wanted rather then the
one you wanted, I'd still be in jail. 




On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 09:57, Frank Roberts - SOTL wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> You are certainly correct but you need to take that thought a bit futher.
> 
> What if this is not the ONLY method of extraneous control that is built into 
> the product? 
> 
> What is hackers find out how to control your routers by this method.
> 
> What if you use such products and this causes a loss of control of a critical 
> systen?
> 
> What if this irresponsibility causes major loss?
> 
> Frank
> 
> On Tuesday 24 February 2004 08:54 am, Rei Shinozuka wrote:
> > that is a *horrifying* story.  i'll certainly join you in boycotting
> > belkin products while they maintain such a heinous policy and
> > unapologetic tone.  the mind boggles when you consider that the maker
> > of a NIC chip could do something similar, or a video card maker could
> > paint pop-up ads right into the frame buffer, a keyboard maker could
> > make the keyboard change "http:..." strings to other URLs.
> >
> > i think the ghastliest line was that "The router would grab a random HTTP
> > connection every eight hours and redirect it to Belkin's (push) advertised
> > web page."  you would really begin to suspect your devices were consipiring
> > against you--and in this case, you'd be right!!
> >
> > the following  page has more info, including belkin's weak response:
> > http://www.marco.org/content/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=36
> >
> > just do a google search on "boycott belkin"
> >
> > thanks for sharing, frank
> >
> > -rei
> >
> > ----- Forwarded message from Frank Roberts - SOTL
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > For a week or so now I have been starting up my laptop in the office and
> > receiving a immediate pop-up spam add.
> >
> > Havinf all filters turned on including security, popups and cookies I was
> > going nuts trying to figure out how I had became infected with a url
> > transfer spam program in my Linux box.
> >
> > Thanks to a posting on another list I was able to ascertain that what is
> > happening is that a router company has initiated an add campain of popups
> > through their routers.
> > The URL that always appears is:
> > http://filter.belkin.com/setup.asp?SN=BEL13KK0&RP=21456&IP=192.168.0.2&FV=2
> >.00.04
> >
> > which is a Belkin Router add.
> >
> > The following story explains the situation:
> > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/07/1740205&tid=153
> >
> > My solution to this issue is to post notices on all know BB that if you buy
> > Belkin products expects spam from Belkin.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Frank
> > -
> >
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
> 
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