At 11:43 AM 12/30/2004 -0600, James Miller wrote:

Sorry about the lack of details, Ray: it was because I already have both
interfaces working in this laptop and so don't really need help with
setting that up. If I take this laptop into an area with a wireless
network, for example, and the network has a dhcp server, I turn on the
computer, the module for the NIC loads, the dhcp client runs and I get on
the network. It's an older card--Wavelan bronze--and doesn't do encryption
of any form, I believe.

Then the interface will probably work with the apt's WAN. You still need to get authentication details from the provider ... it may need to know a MAC address or have the system run something else to authenticate itself. Only the ISP can tell you that part. But the Linux part seems to be working.


The wired NIC works similarly: I plug in an
ethernet cable, fire up the computer and the NIC module loads and a dhcp
client runs on the interface to get an IP.

Well, since the other workstation probably isn't running a DHCP server, you'll need to provide a static address here. Look in /etc/network/interfaces and make changes like these (an example from my own workstation).


Look for an entry like ...

        auto eth0
        iface eth0 inet dhcp

... and replace it with one like (use your own addresses) ...

        auto eth0
        iface eth0 inet static
                address 192.168.1.2
                netmask 255.255.255.0
                network 192.168.1.0
                broadcast 192.168.1.255
        # no gateway entry since this is an internal interface

Give the other workstation a compatible static address in the same way (if it is a Debian-like Linux) or whatever way is right for it (if not).

I've never tried using both
cards at once, though.

You'll need to enable ip_forwarding (see my prior message). Whether you'll need to have the router NAT or not depends entirely on what you learn from the ISP. If yo do need to NAT, it might be worth looking at the Shorewall drop-in firewall package to handle this for you. Or follow up here and I can give you some of the details about the bespoke firewall I run on my router.


 But before going on at any greater length on that,
I want to say that I'm now exploring more the Linksys access point
possibility I mentioned in my initial post. Looking over documentation
again, it seems to me like it might work and be the simpler solution. From
what I gather thus far, if I know the MAC address of the access point to
which my access point might serve as client, I might be able to use it, in
effect, as a NIC (by hooking its rj45 plug to a wired NIC in a desktop
computer). Let me append here some descriptions of the modes the access
point is capable of, excerpted from the manual:

------------BEGIN LINKSYS MANUAL EXCERPT-------------------------

  SETTING THE AP MODE:
  The Access Point offers five modes of operation: Access Point, Access
Point Client, Wireless Bridge, Wireless Bridge Point to MultiPoint, and
Wireless Repeater. For all bridging modes, as well as Wireless Repeater
mode, make sure the channel, SSID, and WEP keys are the same.
  Note: For all modes of operation EXCEPT Access Point, the remote access
point must be a second Linksys Wireless-B Access Point (WAP11). The Access
Point will not communicate with any other kind of remote access
     Access Point - The Operational Mode is set to Access Point by
default. This connects your wireless PCs to a wired network. In most
cases, no change is necessary.
  Access Point Client - When set to Access Point Client mode, the Access
Point Client is able to talk to one remote access point within its range.
This mode allows the Access Point Client to act as a client of a remote
access point. The Access Point Client cannot communicate directly with any
wireless clients. A separate network attached to the Access Point Client
can then be wirelessly bridged to the remote access point. Enter the
required LAN MAC address of the remote access point in the Remote AP MAC
Address field.
[rest deleted]

What you are interested in is the Access Point Client option. The disclaimer that precedes it (and you noted in a separate e-mail) seems to say that this option requires WAP11s on both ends. Maybe, maybe not. It depends entirely on the details of how they did this.

If they are using some proprietary trick, then you do need WAP11s on both ends ... proprietary extensions in WAPs like higher speeds invariably require matching hardware on both sides. But if they have implemented a way to make the device look like a standard Wireless-b NIC, then it should work with anything.

There is no way to guess about this, and a Linux list is not the best place to find expertise about non-standard uses of Linksys WAPs. Try it, or look for a Limksys support list where you can ask.




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