On 12-Jul-00 Ray Olszewski wrote:
> Forgive what must seem like a foolish question this late in the game, but
> .... exactly what is the *problem* with your system? The network config
> report at the end of your message (the ifconfig and route output) look fine
> -- both ppp0 and lo look to be set up correctly. Does the system communicate
> properly over the ppp link? If not, how does it fail?
> 

Yes it does, I apologise for wasting bandwidth on a 'problem' that I've since
found out is a bug in the earlier version of kppp that I was using. 

> Or are you concerned only about the ugliness of the modprobe errors, even
> though they reflect no actual, observed failures in your system's actual
> operation? Or just the delays that are introduced by the modprobe attempts,
> then failures, during boot/init?
>

modprobe has no visible problems during boot/init, everything seems to boot
fine.

I don't think it's normal operation, but I guess it's not really a *problem*
if, whenever I exit linuxconf, modprobe takes about 40 seconds looking for ppp0
and lo. or that it can't find /dev/ttyS1 when I connect to the internet. It all
seems pretty weird, but you're right: there are no actual, observed failures in
my system's operation. 
 
> If so, I suspect that to troubleshoot them, we'll need to see whatever
> configuration file is generating them. At this point, I'm wondering if it is
> something as simple as that linuxconf is trying to modprobe modules that are
> already running (or in the case of ppp, is trying to modprobe a module for
> something that is already compiled into the kernel).

I don't know, but I thought lo and ppp0 are network interfaces, not modules?
and, forgive me  my naivety, /dev/ttyS1 is my modem device?

Gee, now I'm _really_ confused, I think I should go away and learn a bit more
about what modprobe wants when it looks for these things; and how to ask
questions that are a little more directed. I am sorry if I seem a little stupid
at the moment. However, if you will please bear with me while I intellectually
undress a little more...

> 
> In the end, I fear the problem is in your linuxconf settings. The fact that
> it wants to rerun LILO to produce a non-working version encourages that
> hypothesis. Since I don't run that app here, I am an unmlikely source for
> help on problems specific to its configuration. But with this preliminary
> work, perhaps someone more familiar with linuxconf will be able to focus in
> on the actual problem.
> 
> BTW, this is what your reported LILO error means (for the little this
> explanation is worth):
> 
> "LIL-   The descriptor table is corrupt. This can either be caused by a
> geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/map without running the map installer."
> 

this is most certainly the case. when I recompiled the kernel I copied the
bzImage to /boot/ and added an entry for it in lilo.conf before rerunning lilo.
But I don't know anything about 'the map installer' and I fear my /boot/ folder
has become a bit of a mess. here's what it looks like:

drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Jul 12 20:49 .
drwxr-xr-x  25 root     root         1024 Jun 27 19:19 ..
-rw-------   1 root     root        32768 Jul 12 20:49 System.map
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       151249 Jul  7 17:52 System.map-2.2.16
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       186704 Jun  2  1999 System.map-2.2.5-22
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       165704 Jun  2  1999 System.map-2.2.5-22BOOT
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       197682 Jun  2  1999 System.map-2.2.5-22smp
-rw-------   1 root     root        40448 Jun 28 18:30 bkupSystem.map-2.2.16
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root          512 May 13 06:35 boot.0300
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root         4544 Apr 13  1999 boot.b
-rw-rw-r--   1 root     root       507775 Jul  7 18:40 bzImage
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root          612 Apr 13  1999 chain.b
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       470247 Jun 30 23:01 kernel-2.2.16
-rw-rw-r--   1 root     root       690251 Jun 27 17:36 kernel-2.2.5
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           23 Jul  1 09:29 map ->
/boot/System.map-2.2.16
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           20 May 13 06:34 module-info ->
module-info-2.2.5-22
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root        11773 Jun  2  1999 module-info-2.2.5-22
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root        11773 Jun  2  1999 module-info-2.2.5-22smp
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root          620 Apr 13  1999 os2_d.b
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root     root      1106920 Jul  7 17:53 vmlinux
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root     root      1163920 Jun 30 23:48 vmlinux-2.2.16
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root      1469282 Jun  2  1999 vmlinux-2.2.5-22
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root      1275613 Jun  2  1999 vmlinux-2.2.5-22BOOT
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root      1568295 Jun  2  1999 vmlinux-2.2.5-22smp
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           16 May 13 06:34 vmlinuz ->
vmlinuz-2.2.5-22
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       617297 Jun  2  1999 vmlinuz-2.2.5-22
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       530924 Jun  2  1999 vmlinuz-2.2.5-22BOOT
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root       640899 Jun  2  1999 vmlinuz-2.2.5-22smp
-rw-rw-r--   1 root     root       507777 Jul  7 18:39 zImage
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       451797 Jul  7 17:50 zImageold

I really can't remember what I've changed around here. I'm sure I changed,
amongst other things, the symlink for 'map' -probably incorrectly. there are
things in there that I think are wrong, like maybe the bzImage needs to be
executable, as the 'zImageold' is?

thankyou for your patience with my ignorance.
d,


> At 01:47 PM 7/12/00 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote [in part]:
> ....
>>I'm running RedHat 6.2, kernel 2.2.16. My original original, full (c.d.)
>>install was RH6.0, 2.2.5, but I have since updated. I updated modprobe when I
>>did this (2.3.10). My new-kernel compilation(s) have been with make xconfig,
>>compiling _in_ ppp support, as well as support for the kernel module-loader.
> ....












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