Yes, I changed to pop3 address and got past that point. Now the server has
something else it doesn't like. Here's the relevant syslog:

Aug  6 21:39:55 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3< +OK CPIMSPOPA09.email.msn.com
POP3 Server
Aug  6 21:39:55 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3> USER MSN/davidturetsky^M
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3< -ERR Permission denied
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: Permission denied
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3> PASS *^M
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3< -ERR Command is not valid for
this state -- valid commands are: USER APOP AUTH QUIT.
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: Command is not valid for this
state -- valid commands are: USER APOP AUTH QUIT.
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: Authorization failure on
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3> QUIT^M
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3< +OK
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: authorization error while fetching
from pop3.email.msn.com
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: Authentication failed for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does not like my login?

Here is the output from fetchmail --version

This is fetchmail release 4.6.4
Linux debian 2.2.12 #2 Thu Aug 26 11:46:26 PDT 1999 i686 unknown
Taking options from command line and /root/.fetchmailrc
Idfile is /root/.fetchids
Fetchmail will forward misaddressed multidrop messages to postmaster.
Options for retrieving from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  True name of server is pop3.email.msn.com.
  Protocol is POP3.
  Server nonresponse timeout is 300 seconds (default).
  Default mailbox selected.
  Only new messages will be retrieved (--all off).
  Fetched messages will be kept on the server (--keep on).
  Old messages will not be flushed before message retrieval (--flush off).
  Rewrite of server-local addresses is enabled (--norewrite off).
  Carriage-return stripping is disabled (stripcr off).
  Carriage-return forcing is disabled (forcecr off).
  Interpretation of Content-Transfer-Encoding is enabled (pass8bits off).
  MIME decoding is disabled (mimedecode off).
  Nonempty Status lines will be kept (dropstatus off)
  Messages will be SMTP-forwarded to: smtp.email.msn.com
  Recognized listener spam block responses are: 571 550 501
  Single-drop mode: 1 local name(s) recognized.
  No UIDs saved from this host.

Regarding the kill command below, I was logged in as root so I don't
understand why the command was rejected

David

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: ppp working [was:fetchmail/minicom]

[deleted]

> >
> Don't I remember in the info from MSN you quoted the pop3 server was
>
> pop3.email.msn.com
>
> ??
>
> I think that is exactly what it means, pop3.email.msn.com, _not_ port
> 110 at email.msn.com.  email.msn.com is a [sub]domain.  it doesn't have
> an IP and you can't get mail from it.
>
> > The output from fetchmail -V follows:
> >
> > This is fetchmail release 4.6.4
> > Linux debian 2.2.12 #2 Thu Aug 26 11:46:26 PDT 1999 i686 unknown
> > Taking options from command line and /root/.fetchmailrc
> > Idfile is /root/.fetchids
> > The script reads:
> >
> > kill 'cat /var/run/ppp0.pid'
>
> can the user who ran ppp-off cat /var/run/ppp0.pid?  I bet that file is
> owned by root and not readable by other.
> >
> > poff terminates the connection successfully
> > using pon (instead of my /etc/ppp/ppp-on script) also gets me a good
> > connection
> >
> > I seemingly sent myself mail via sendmail, but it certainly hasn't
> arrived.
> > I wrote:
> >
> > sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'sendmail test'
> > .
> > Ctl-D
> >
> > I assume once I 'pon' or '/etc/ppp/ppp-on' I can then rev up any
> > application
> > that wants to use the connection. How do I integrate the dialup into
> > fetchmail/sendmail/exim . . . or should I?
> >
> > David
> >
> Let's get 'em working first.  You can put jobs you want to run at ppp
> startup in /etc/ppp/ip-up.  man pppd tells what parameters it gets.
>




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