On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Dave Jiang <dave.ji...@intel.com> wrote: > > > On 08/16/2017 10:06 AM, Dan Williams wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Vinod Koul <vinod.k...@intel.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 09:14:13AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we need a new API / new function, or new capability? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm...you are right. I wonder if we need something like DMA_SG >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cap.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, DMA_SG means something else. Maybe, we need >>>>>>>>>>>>> DMA_MEMCPY_SG >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be similar with DMA_MEMSET_SG. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm ok with that if Vinod is. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So what exactly is the ask here, are you trying to do MEMCPY or SG >>>>>>>>>>> or MEMSET >>>>>>>>>>> or all :). We should have done bitfields for this though... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Add DMA_MEMCPY_SG to transaction type. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not MEMSET right, then why not use DMA_SG, DMA_SG is supposed for >>>>>>>>> scatterlist to scatterlist copy which is used to check for >>>>>>>>> device_prep_dma_sg() calls >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right. But we are doing flat buffer to/from scatterlist, not sg to sg. >>>>>>>> So >>>>>>>> we need something separate than what DMA_SG is used for. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmm, its SG-buffer and its memcpy, so should we call it DMA_SG_BUFFER, >>>>>>> since it is not memset (or is it) I would not call it memset, or maybe >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> should also change DMA_SG to DMA_SG_SG to make it terribly clear :D >>>>>> >>>>>> I can create patches for both. >>>>> >>>>> Great, anyone who disagrees or can give better names :) >>>> >>>> All my suggestions would involve a lot more work. If we had infinite >>>> time we'd stop with the per-operation-type entry points and make this >>>> look like a typical driver sub-system that takes commands like >>>> block-devices or usb, but perhaps that ship has sailed. >>> >>> Can you elaborate on this :) >>> >>> I have been thinking about the need to redo the API. So lets discuss :) >> >> The high level is straightforward, the devil is in the details. Define >> a generic dma command object, perhaps 'struct dma_io' certainly not >> 'struct dma_async_tx_descriptor', and have just one entry point >> per-driver. That 'struct dma_io' would carry a generic command number >> a target address and a scatterlist. The driver entry point would then >> convert and build the command to the hardware command format plus >> submission queue. The basic driving design principle is convert all >> the current function pointer complexity with the prep_* routines into >> data structure complexity in the common command format. >> >> This trades off some efficiency because now you need to write the >> generic command and write the descriptor, but I think if the operation >> is worth offloading those conversion costs must already be in the >> noise. > > Vinod, I think if you want to look at existing examples take a look at > the block layer request queue. Or even better blk-mq. I think this is > pretty close to what Dan is envisioning? Also, it's probably time we > looking into supporting hotplugging for DMA engines? Maybe this will > make it easier to do so. I'm willing to help and hoping that it will > make things easier for me for the next gen hardware.
Yes, device hotplug is a good one to add to the list. We didn't have 'struct percpu_ref' when dmaengine started, that would make hotplug support easier to handle without coarse locking. _______________________________________________ Linux-nvdimm mailing list Linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-nvdimm
