> >>> At the end of the line, some kind of hardware glue is going to be needed.
> >>> 
> >>> I just feel that drawing from a sample size of 1 (maybe 2 if I get to 
> >>> throw
> >>> in the beagleboard), it is a bit premature to think about making it overly
> >>> general, besides the part that are obviously part of the infrastructure 
> >>> (like the DT overlay stuff).
> >>> 
> >>> What I'm getting at, is that we need some user experience about this, 
> >>> before
> >>> going away and creating structure out of possible misconception about the 
> >>> uses. 
> >> 
> >> IMHO stuff like this will be needed by many SoCs. Some examples of similar
> >> things for omaps that have eventually become generic frameworks have been
> >> the clock framework, USB OTG support, runtime PM, pinmux framework and
> >> so on.
> >> 
> >> So I suggest a minimal generic API from the start as that will make things
> >> a lot easier in the long run.
> > 
> > I agree. The ux500 platform already has the concept of "user interface 
> > boards",
> > which currently is not well integrated into devicetree. I believe Sascha
> > mentioned that Pengutronix had been shipping some other systems with add-on
> > boards and generating device tree binaries from source for each combination.
> > 
> > Ideally, both of the above should be able to use the same DT overlay logic
> > as BeagleBone, and I'm sure there are more of those.
> 
> Hmm, I see. 
> 
> I will need some more information about the interface of the 'user interface 
> boards'.
> I.e. how is the board identified, what is typically present on those boards, 
> etc.

User Interface Boards are mearly removable PCBs which are interchangeable
amongst various hardware platforms. They are connected via numerous
connectors which carry all sorts of different data links; i2c, spi, rs232,
etc. The UIB I'm looking at right now has a touchscreen, speakers, a key
pad, leds, jumpers, switches and a bunch of sensors.

You can find a small example of how we interface to these by viewing
'arch/arm/boot/dts/stuib.dtsi'. To add a UIB to a particular build, we
currently include it as a *.dtsi from a platform's dts file.

> Can we get some input by the owner of other similar hardware? I know the FPGA
> people have similar requirements for example. There are other people that are 
> hitting
> problems getting DT to work with their systems, like the V4L people with the 
> order
> of initialization; see http://lwn.net/Articles/531068/. I think the V4L 
> problem is
> cleanly solved by the overlay being contained in the V4L device node and 
> applied just before
> the device is probed.
> 
> In the meantime it would be better to wait until we have some ack from the 
> maintainers
> of the core subsystems about what they think.
>  
> Regards
> 
> -- Pantelis
> 

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