On Jun 12, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Jason Gunthorpe <jguntho...@obsidianresearch.com> 
wrote:

> Someone has to finish the ummunotify rewrite Roland
> started. Realistically MPI is going to be the only user, can someone
> from the MPI world do this?

1. I tried to ask what needed to be done at the beginning of this thread and 
didn't get much of an answer.

2. We've (all) been asking for this functionality *for years*; I even helped 
with the first implementation.  Can't the verbs community finish it?  :-)  MPI 
is probably your biggest customer, after all...

>> ...but this is not how people write applications.  Real apps use
>> malloc (and some direct mmap, and perhaps even some shared memory).
> 
> *shrug* I used MAP_FIXED for some RDMA regions in my IB verbs apps,
> specifically to create specalized high-performance memory
> structures.

But you're not a chemist writing Fortran code to effect n-body simulations.

The target audience for MPI is scientists and engineers who are not (and should 
not be) network / systems developers.  They're focusing on their formulae and 
applications -- as they should be.

> It isn't a general purpose technique for non-RDMA apps - but
> especially when combined with ODP it is useful in some places.

I have no doubt that ODP solves problems for someone.  It just doesn't seem to 
solve the very-long-standing MPI issues with verbs and registration caches.

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