Linux-Setup Digest #50, Volume #21               Sun, 15 Apr 01 13:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Adding a Adaptec 2940 to Linux (Lars Oeschey)
  Re: Adding a Adaptec 2940 to Linux (Michael Heiming)
  Re: Cannot run runInstaller of R3 for Linux Intel (Steve Bradley)
  Re: Cannot run runInstaller of R3 for Linux Intel (Dino Hsu)
  Re: One more who needs help! ("Ron Freidel")
  Re: RH 7.x and glibc-2.2-12==> wine (Theng Ung)
  RedHat Booting... ;o( ("David Cutting")
  Cannot mount FAT16 partition (Dino Hsu)
  Re: Internet Sharing ("" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
  Re: Routing & Gateway ("" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
  Re: Cannot mount FAT16 partition ("" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
  What's wrong with my terminal? (Bernie)
  Re: Cannot run runInstaller of R3 for Linux Intel (Steve Bradley)
  modemcable login ("Zarquon")
  Re: Someone help a novice installing SuSE v3.0 from a DOS Partition ("Matthew Clubb")
  RE:  cut and paste with mouse (Will Renkel)

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From: Lars Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Adding a Adaptec 2940 to Linux
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:11:14 +0200

On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:53:10 +0200, Michael Heiming
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm running AHA2940 & SuSE since ~5 years and never had any problems?

yep, this should work without problems, I also have some machines
running with a 2940. Though they all boot from it. The box with my
problem boots from IDE though. 

>My / is on SCSI, but it doesn't matter if I build aic7xxx in the kernel
>or use initrd,
>it'll work anyway.

with a boot=/dev/sdX this shouldn't be any problem. But i don't know
what to do when I have a boot=/dev/hda

Lars

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Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:32:04 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Adding a Adaptec 2940 to Linux

Lras Oeschey wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:53:10 +0200, Michael Heiming
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >I'm running AHA2940 & SuSE since ~5 years and never had any problems?
> 
> yep, this should work without problems, I also have some machines
> running with a 2940. Though they all boot from it. The box with my
> problem boots from IDE though.
> 
> >My / is on SCSI, but it doesn't matter if I build aic7xxx in the kernel
> >or use initrd,
> >it'll work anyway.
> 
> with a boot=/dev/sdX this shouldn't be any problem. But i don't know
> what to do when I have a boot=/dev/hda

Ah, now I understood, this way you don't need the SCSI module at boot
time,
you could just let modprobe auto magically load the module if it's
needed,
may be some setting in modules.conf, as you described should work.
Depending
on the kernel version you run, issuing a "depmod -a <kernel_version>
afterwards
can never be a bad idea...

Michael Heiming

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From: Steve Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot run runInstaller of R3 for Linux Intel
Crossposted-To: comp.database.oracle.misc
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:48:06 GMT

This is going to sound basic and stupid, so I apologize if it's insulting...
but did you mount the drive before you tried to execute the program?

The installer worked fine for me.

Steve

Dino Hsu wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I put in Oracle EE R3 (8.1.7.0.1) for Linux CD, and try to run
> /mnt/cdrom/runInstaller in GNOME X window, the following message comes
> out:
> Failed to execute command:
> /mnt/cdrom/runInstaller
> No such file or directory (2)
> 
> Anyone has experience about this installation? Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> Dino
> 
> 

-- 
Steve Bradley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Dino Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot run runInstaller of R3 for Linux Intel
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:47:26 +0800

On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:48:06 GMT, Steve Bradley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>This is going to sound basic and stupid, so I apologize if it's insulting...
>but did you mount the drive before you tried to execute the program?
>
>The installer worked fine for me.
>
>Steve
>
>Dino Hsu wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I put in Oracle EE R3 (8.1.7.0.1) for Linux CD, and try to run
>> /mnt/cdrom/runInstaller in GNOME X window, the following message comes
>> out:
>> Failed to execute command:
>> /mnt/cdrom/runInstaller
>> No such file or directory (2)
>> 
>> Anyone has experience about this installation? Thanks.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dino
>> 
>> 

Steve,

Sure it is perfectly possible for me to neglect some basics because I
am a beginner in Linux, or Unix in general. But I have thought of the
mount issue and have done some experiments. I tried to manually umount
and mount back the CD-ROM with:
mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
I made a conclusion later that Linux will automatically mount CD-ROM
(and floppy disk as well) when one is inserted in X window.
I wish those who have experience with Oracle 8 or 8i versions on Linux
Intel could kindly share their knowledge.

By the way, there are some anomalies in my X window. For example, I
CANNOT edit any text files but I can view them; when I edit, nothing
comes out, no errors, no messages. I am wondering what the editor
(like NOTEPAD in MS-WIN?) is in X window, I have not seen it yet. My
version is gdm in Red Hat 7.0.

Regards,
Dino


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From: "Ron Freidel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: One more who needs help!
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,yu.os.unix
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 07:01:59 -0600

Hi,

If it is a pci modem does it show up when you do a 
cat /proc/pci, or lspci?

You might find out something about it at http://www.linmmodems.org.


In article <9b9na0$eqh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Krstanovic"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I have just installed Red Hat Linux 7.0 and I have a verrryyyy LARGE
> problem!
> I cannot configure my Rockwell 56K modem and XWAVE QS3000a soundcard.
> Can anybody help me?I would be very gratefull if you can send me some
> instalation instructions
> or some Internet adres on which I could find help!



-- 
Ron

That money talks,
I'll not deny,
I heard it once,
It said good-bye.


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From: Theng Ung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: RH 7.x and glibc-2.2-12==> wine
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:34:36 GMT

Thanks :)

manage to get it compile but still has problem install wine.
I download another version  wine-cvs-unstripped-033001-1.i386.rpm and 
able to install it.

Try to test applications on windows 2000 professional partition  with  
wine ( Wine release 20010326) , but there seem to no references to 
running applications in windows 2000 Professional on the www.winehq.com 
web site.  Also the sample wine.conf (config) only mention partition 
format such as 
msdos, fat16, fat32, vfat  that it could understand.   I try ntfs but 
wine won't understand when I run it.

Anyone got a sample wine.conf for windows 2000 professional?
My hard disk is partition as

/dev/hda1   # windows 2000 prof. partitions , I can mount it in Linux 
with ntfs
/dev/hda2    # linux partition.

Kernel  2.4 and just install glib-2.2.2.

Thanks in advance.

Theng



k wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 05:39:06 GMT, Theng Ung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I am running Red Hat 7.0(kernel 2.4) , glibc-2.1.92.
>> I tried to install glibc-2.2-12 so that I can install 
>> wine-20010407-3.i386.rpm.
>> 
> 
> This is an excerpt of my rh7 'upgrade' script. 
> 
> $INSTPATH points to the location (in my case a mounted cd) of the various
> required rpm's as suggested by the official RedHat website.
> 
> ---[snippet]---
> rpm -Uvh $INSTPATH/software/linux/rh70-updates/glibc/glibc-2.2-12.i386.rpm 
>$INSTPATH/software/linux/rh70-updates/glibc/glibc-common-2.2-12.i386.rpm
> rpm -Fvh $INSTPATH/software/linux/rh70-updates/glibc/glibc-devel-2.2-12.i386.rpm
> rpm -Fvh $INSTPATH/software/linux/rh70-updates/glibc/glibc-profile-2.2-12.i386.rpm
> rpm -Fvh $INSTPATH/software/linux/rh70-updates/glibc/nscd-2.2-12.i386.rpm
> ---[.]---
> 
> The first line installs TWO rpms at the same time, as they are dependent of
> eachother...
> 
> HTH,
> k
> 



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From: "David Cutting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat Booting... ;o(
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:53:56 +0100

Dear all -

Sorry to bother you; but I have found a problem that my
meagre knowledge and documentation searching can overcome...

I have a PII 400 with 384 Mb of RAM and 3 hard drives (1 SCSI
and 2 IDE). For various reasons; it needs to be dual boot (must
run certain ghastly windows apps) and because the original IDE drive's
boot record is knackered - we installed Windows onto the SCSI to
boot and had the IDE partitioned as D. I then added a second IDE
drive and partitioned it to be 5 Gb Windows (E) drive and 15 Gb
linux setup (100 Mb /boot, /usr, / etc).

RedHat installed fine - but LILO wouldn't let me write to the third
drive (my new IDE). I could overcome this (in BIOS or even by
re-witing the IDE channels - but even so - it doesn't
see my SCSI drive as a bootable option - so I can't seem to use it.

I was booting under LOADLIN via a CONFIG.SYS menu but
this is not ideal as Linux only seems to see 64 Mb of memory ;o(

I have tried a couple of downloadable bootloaders and they see
my SCSI drive (for Windows) but won't let me boot any of my 'linux'
partitions. Someone has mentioned to me IBM bootloader?? But I
can't seem to find this anywhere. Does anyone know of a bootloader
that will reckognise my SCSI drive for Windows boot and also
my IDE Linux boot partition/record.

Another problem I've had in my ineptitude recently - I made a couple
of changes to my rc.sysinit and now I can't even get to a tty, the
filesystem doesn't mount rw and getty respawns too quick. I ran
linux rescue from my 6.2 disk but I can't mount /dev/hddX as there
are no hard drive records in /dev. I vaugly remember that I could use
MAKEDEV to create them - but I can't install MAKEDEV as the
rescue mode lacks rpm or even a compiler... I will eventually boot
it diskless over NFS and mount like that but until recently this machine
WAS the diskless server and as such it would take some serious
time to configure it on another machine. Is there any way I can get
a system on a floppy that will give me a shell and let me mount my
hard drive partitions etc...?????

Any help in either of these problems would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

David Cutting.




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From: Dino Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot mount FAT16 partition
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:27:44 +0800

Dear all,

I have a FAT16 partition to be mounted as /shared but failed.

<fdisk begin>
Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3720 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *        11        15     40162+  83  Linux
/dev/hda2          2382      2773   3148740   83  Linux
/dev/hda3          2774      2806    265072+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda4            34       295   2104515    6  FAT16

Partition table entries are not in disk order
<fdisk end>

<fstab begin>
LABEL=/                 /                       ext2    defaults
1 1
LABEL=/boot             /boot                   ext2    defaults
1 2
/dev/cdrom              /mnt/cdrom              iso9660
noauto,owner,ro 0 0
/dev/cdrom1             /mnt/cdrom1             iso9660
noauto,owner,ro 0 0
/dev/fd0                /mnt/floppy             auto    noauto,owner
0 0
/dev/hda4               /shared                 vfat    defaults
0 0
none                    /proc                   proc    defaults
0 0
none                    /dev/pts                devpts  gid=5,mode=620
0 0
/dev/hda3               swap                    swap    defaults
0 0
<fstab end>

If I mount it by this command: 
mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /shared, 
it comes out with:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4,
       or too many mounted file systems

Anyone knows why? Thanks.

Dino


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From: "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet Sharing
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:51:41 -0400

Thanks...I had to play around with /etc/resolv.conf.

Thank you

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<9b67m9$7pnq7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>"<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> i need to set up an computer to share an internet. We are using Winproxy
>> (Windows 98) as our proxy server. And I am the only one using Linux. I
need
>> to do these changes
>
>I havent' exactly understood your problems, if you have to do these
>things in Linux, see the NETx-HOWTO. In a nutshell you have to use
>ifconfig to setup the IP address and the subnet mask, then use
>route to add the gateway and specify the DNS into the /etc/resolv.conf
>file.
>
>Davide



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From: "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Routing & Gateway
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:52:56 -0400

I got it working...i changed stuff in /etc/network/interface
That file and /etc/resolv.conf had my answers....thanks for helping me out.

Peter T. Breuer wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>> I have been trying to produce this table for 2 weeks now!
>
>??
>
>>> Destination    Gateway       Genmask         Flags Metric Ref  Use Iface
>>> 192.168.0.0    *             255.255.255.0   U        0    0   0    eth0
>>> 127.0.0.0      *             255.0.0.0       U        0    0   0    lo
>>> default        rcn.rcn.com   0.0.0.0         UG       0    0   0    eth0
>
>>> What files files should I edit? What should i enter in the terminal? I
am
>>> using Debian
>
>> route add -net 192.168.0.0 dev eth0
>> route add default gw rcn.rcn.com dev eth0
>> (using the IP if rcn.rcn.com doesn't work)
>
>> But I do not know where you would put these in Debian to work
>> automatically.  There may be scripts to configure this.
>
>He should look in /etc/init.d/network[ing]. It may use data files
>elsewhere (in /etc).
>
>Peter



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From: "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot mount FAT16 partition
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:56:25 -0400

Make sure you are in root, and have the modules (vfat) installed and
loaded...

goodluck

Dino Hsu wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Dear all,
>
>I have a FAT16 partition to be mounted as /shared but failed.
>
><fdisk begin>
>Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3720 cylinders
>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
>   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
>/dev/hda1   *        11        15     40162+  83  Linux
>/dev/hda2          2382      2773   3148740   83  Linux
>/dev/hda3          2774      2806    265072+  82  Linux swap
>/dev/hda4            34       295   2104515    6  FAT16
>
>Partition table entries are not in disk order
><fdisk end>
>
><fstab begin>
>LABEL=/                 /                       ext2    defaults
>1 1
>LABEL=/boot             /boot                   ext2    defaults
>1 2
>/dev/cdrom              /mnt/cdrom              iso9660
>noauto,owner,ro 0 0
>/dev/cdrom1             /mnt/cdrom1             iso9660
>noauto,owner,ro 0 0
>/dev/fd0                /mnt/floppy             auto    noauto,owner
>0 0
>/dev/hda4               /shared                 vfat    defaults
>0 0
>none                    /proc                   proc    defaults
>0 0
>none                    /dev/pts                devpts  gid=5,mode=620
>0 0
>/dev/hda3               swap                    swap    defaults
>0 0
><fstab end>
>
>If I mount it by this command:
>mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /shared,
>it comes out with:
>mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4,
>       or too many mounted file systems
>
>Anyone knows why? Thanks.
>
>Dino
>



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From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What's wrong with my terminal?
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:37:28 GMT


I'm using Red Hat Linux 7.0 and KDE 2.0.1.  When I use a meta command,
as demonstrated below, there are escape characters displayed in the
output.
You can see the \033[00m at the beginning of the file names.  This
occurs with
the bash or ksh shells.  I've tried different terminals, such as vt100
and xterm,
and get the same results.  How can I prevent this?

-Thanks


/home/bernie/docs> rm $(ls|grep -i java_netwo)
rm: cannot remove `\033[00mJava_Networking_FAQ.txt\033[00m': No such
file or directory
rm: cannot remove `\033[00mjava_networking_faq.txt\033[00m': No such
file or directory



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From: Steve Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot run runInstaller of R3 for Linux Intel
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:06:20 GMT

Told you it was an insultingly simple question...but I just put Oracle 8 on 
an RH7 system at work, and the installer worked perfectly for me. 

Have you tried this:

mount -t iso9660 -o exec /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom

The 'exec' option permits execution of binary files.  It's a common 
problem.  Also, if your system is automounting CD's (my RH7 system doesn't) 
you should add the exec switch to your /etc/fstab:

/dev/cdrom     /mnt/cdrom    auto   noauto,exec,user,ro 0 0

That way when it automounts it'll have the ability to execute binaries.

Steve


Dino Hsu wrote:

> 
> Steve,
> 
> Sure it is perfectly possible for me to neglect some basics because I
> am a beginner in Linux, or Unix in general. But I have thought of the
> mount issue and have done some experiments. I tried to manually umount
> and mount back the CD-ROM with:
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> I made a conclusion later that Linux will automatically mount CD-ROM
> (and floppy disk as well) when one is inserted in X window.
> I wish those who have experience with Oracle 8 or 8i versions on Linux
> Intel could kindly share their knowledge.
> 
> By the way, there are some anomalies in my X window. For example, I
> CANNOT edit any text files but I can view them; when I edit, nothing
> comes out, no errors, no messages. I am wondering what the editor
> (like NOTEPAD in MS-WIN?) is in X window, I have not seen it yet. My
> version is gdm in Red Hat 7.0.
> 
> Regards,
> Dino
> 
> 

-- 
Steve Bradley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Zarquon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modemcable login
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:30:02 -0400

Hi Group,

Complete newbie just finished installing Redhat 6.1 from a CD-ROM onto a
1ghz Athlon T-Bird system already running Windoze ME. I am on a cable modem
from Videotron, and when i reboot into Linux, it asks me to login to my
cablemodem.

I type the username given to me, then the password (but nothing appears for
the password, I assume this is a type of password mask?), but it always says
login incorrect.

I used DHCP to configure the network connection. I have 2 network cards, one
to another computer, and one to the internet.

Is there any way to bypass the login screen so that i can play with my
network settings? I just want to get into Linux and see what i can do from
there.

Any help is appreciated.

Yours,

Jeremy

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

please feel free to email me, just remove the NOSPAM in my email address



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From: "Matthew Clubb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Someone help a novice installing SuSE v3.0 from a DOS Partition
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:55:22 +0100

Hey its ok,
I've looked at the manual for SuSE 6.4 and I've managed to sort it.
Thanks anyway!
Matt



"Matthew Clubb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install SuSE 6.3 from my hard drive because I can't get the
CD
> drive to work. I am using the manual section 2.4.1: Installation from a
DOS
> Partition. I have done exactly what the manual says but one of the files
> that it asks you to copy is not there, this is "inst-img". See page 46,
> instruction 7: "Copy file \suse\setup\inst-img to \emil\suse\setup. This
> file is relatively big, but it is only needed while doing the first
> installation. When the base system is up and running, you will be able to
> install additional packages from a DOS partition. Then the file inst-img
can
> be removed."
> I have been unable to locate the file inst-img on any of the six disks.
> Please can anyone tell me what to do or where I might find this file.....
>
> Thanks very much
> Matt Clubb
>
>
>
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Renkel)
Subject: RE:  cut and paste with mouse
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson) writes:
        >I just looked at my xconfig and my protocol is PS/2. That seems to be the
        >standard on most machines and may make some difference.
        >
        >...Edwin
        >
        >On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:58:23 +0000 (UTC), Will Renkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        >>I am experiencing a cut and paste situation that drives me absolutely nuts.
        >>The problem is I highlight with left button
        >>and paste with middle button
        >>But the paste gives me multiple copies of the highlighted cut.
        >>
        >>I start my system in console mode and startx as needed.
        >>I disable (kill) gpm before starting windows.
        >>
        >>Any ideas?
        >>
        >>Here is my xconfig setting for pointer:
        >>
        >>Section "Pointer"
        >>    Protocol    "Microsoft"
        >>#    Protocol    "MouseSystems"
        >>    Device      "/dev/mouse"
        >>
        >># When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
        >># the following line.
        >>
        >>#    Protocol   "Xqueue"
        >>
        >># Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice
        >>
        >>#    BaudRate   9600
        >>#    SampleRate 150
        >># Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
        >>
        >>#    Emulate3Buttons
        >>
        >># ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
        >>
        >>    ChordMiddle
        >>
        >>EndSection
        >>
        >>I am using an OLD kernel etc - 1.1.59
        >>
        >>
        >>-- 
        >>---------------------------------------------------------------
        >> Will Renkel
        >> Wheaton, Ill.
        >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        >>
        >>"Golf and bowling are not a matter of life and death ...
        >>     they transcend such trivial matters!"
        >>
        >>"da little BIG DOG!"
        >>---------------------------------------------------------------
        >
        >
        >-- 
        >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        >~   Edwin Johnson ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ~
        >~        http://www.shreve.net/~elj       ~
        >~                                         ~
        >~ "Once you have flown, you will walk the ~
        >~ earth with your eyes turned skyward,    ~
        >~ for there you have been, there you long ~
        >~ to return." -- da Vinci                 ~
        >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        >

Thanx...

Tried PS/2...
Lost control of mouse completely
I have a logitech 3 button mouse

need more suggestions if they are available.

-- 
===============================================================
 Will Renkel
 Wheaton, Ill.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Golf and bowling are not a matter of life and death ...
     they transcend such trivial matters!"

"da little BIG DOG!"
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