On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, Bill Fredrickson wrote:
> What's with all this @#!$^^$# SPAM on the list
>
> Bill
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > http://www.magickits.com/kits/
<meta-comment>
This is a meta-comment (so forgive it, it is all too easy to develop a
thread on SPAM and this has occurred several times in the past and I do
NOT mean to stimulate such a discussion -- please reply offline if you
want to talk about it).
a) There is no way to control SPAM to the list other than to have a
monitored/proctored list, which is a cure worse than the disease. There
is no good way to prevent outsiders from finding the address and abusing
it, either, without also shutting out a large group of potential posters
that we don't want to shut out. So just shrug it off. What's an extra
"d" between friends...
b) AFAIK, the "correct" response to SPAM is personal. Email BOTH the
originating site's postmaster and, because the originating site may be a
microdomain who's postmaster is the poster, email the postmaster of the
FIRST hop in the delivery chain. SPAM violates acceptable use six ways
from Sunday and most major mail forwarding sites are brutal when it
comes to protecting their internet access. They have to be.
c) In this case the message was forwarded from Yahoo, and the header
made me suspect that it was a yahoo-mediated microdomain. So I
immediately emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pointing out that SPAM violates acceptable use agreements. Yahoo
responded instantly. I imagine that if indeed magickits.com originates
as a yahoo-managed site they'll be bopped indeed.
d) SO, I would suggest that in the future we all do NOT respond to the
list with meta-comments on list SPAM -- it just wastes bandwidth and
isn't going to either eliminate it or even ameliorate it (unless
somebody wants to volunteer to monitor all submissions and "proctor" the
list...not ME boss...;-). Instead add the site to your anti-spam list
(forever locking the barn door after the equine has fled:-) and by all
means send email to the postmaster of the originating domain where that
has a hope of working and the postmaster of the forwarding domain (the
one that actually routed the message onto the internet) where that has
no chance of working. In cases that are obviously forwardings from
cracked sites (and yes, alas, there are plenty of those especially from
southeast asia rim country companies that seem to use cracking as a
standard marketing tool) use your judgement about whether to waste your
time informing the inadvertent forwarder or just grin and bear it.
</meta-comment>
rgb
Robert G. Brown http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/
Duke University Dept. of Physics, Box 90305
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