On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:07:46AM +0300, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
> It is indeed bad blood. Let's see a few:
> 
> 1. "*Allwinner <http://linux-sunxi.org/Allwinner> does not actively
> participate in or support this community. In fact, it is violating the
> GPLv2 license <http://linux-sunxi.org/GPL_Violations> in several ways and
> has so far not shown willingness to resolve this."*
> Source: http://linux-sunxi.org/Main_Page (it is in bold, on the first page
> of the Wiki!)

Allwinner never has participated or supported this community so far. It 
hadn't even shown the slightest signs of wanting to change this when 
that message was put up. And now that we got a few email addresses, it 
cannot be said that things have fundamentally improved, and that the 
above has become invalid. 

Allwinner is very much violating the GPL, and that is a cold hard fact. 
What is more, over the years, and people have been talking about this 
since early 2012, they have not shown any willingness to resolve this. 
Only this week did i get one statement that someone "will follow up", 
for whatever that means, as i haven't seen anything solid yet.

> 2. "But with A80, Allwinner decided to step this up a notch, or two, or all
> the way to 11."
> Source: http://linux-sunxi.org/A80 (sensationalism)

http://linux-sunxi.org/UART#Reassemble_your_device

"Now you can do low level development on your tablet, even when on the 
move. Just don't bring it up in a conversation with normal people if you 
still want them to respect you afterwards."

> 3. "Over time, Allwinner has only increased the binary blobs present in
> their kernel trees, showing clearly that, even though Allwinner in the
> meantime joined Linaro, it is not progressing. Quite the opposite actually,
> and one has to worry about what value Linaro membership really has if a
> member is allowed to behave like this."
> Source: http://linux-sunxi.org/GPL_Violations (slander)

Let's see:
A10: -
A20: libnand
A31: $A20 + libisp (+ some touchscreen nonsense)
A23: $A31 + mdfs
A80: $A23 + libusb300 + lib_mipicsi2_vX + libfd + libdsi + libedp

If that is not "increasing", i would like to see your definition of
"increasing".

This A80 SDK is dated July 28th 2014 while Allwinner joined Linaro March 
3rd 2014. Plenty of time to resolve some issues there, i'd think.

I do not see how the above could be slander, with the above facts lined 
out that clearly.

> Your personal point of view (POV) is self-evident in your changes in the
> Wiki. If this was Wikipedia, you would have been locked out of the wiki
> already.

Well... Locking me out from the wiki is a bit tough in this case.

> Now, you are going to remove these fragments just to make the text your
> wrote appear "neutral".

The above is quite neutral. If you think it isn't, i can waste even 
more time on you and show you biased.

> But the damage has been done; there is so much bad blood that no matter
> what is the outcome, you personally will never be able to reconcile
> yourself with further sunxi development.

Come again?

> Simos

Simos who?

Luc Verhaegen.

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