When i said "the last hope" i meant to get the binaries for the r4p0 from 
Allwinners (or perhaps from Cubietech).
It is not legally to use it from ODROID.

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:08:54 AM UTC-3, Siarhei Siamashka wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 05:26:08 -0700 (PDT) 
> "@lex" <alex....@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: 
>
> > On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-3, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 08:13:46 -0700 (PDT) 
> > > "@lex" <alex....@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 10:51:17 AM UTC-3, Siarhei Siamashka 
> wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:04:33 -0700 (PDT) 
> > > > > "@lex" <alex....@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 8:42:32 AM UTC-3, Henrik 
> Nordström 
> > > wrote: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ons 2015-03-18 klockan 06:17 -0700 skrev @lex: 
> > > > > > > > I have looked into ODROID r4p0 blobs and headers and did not 
> > > find 
> > > > > any 
> > > > > > > > EULA, perhaps it is kept with the sources? 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=4956 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thank you all, 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So, the last hope is what Siarhei Siamashka is suggesting? Any 
> > > chance 
> > > > > this 
> > > > > > will happen? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The "last hope" for what? What kind of *real* problem are you 
> trying 
> > > to 
> > > > > solve? Why would you expect us going "extra mile" in supporting 
> every 
> > > > > minor proprietary mali blob update? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have already mentioned in this thread that the r3p0 mali driver, 
> > > > > which is integrated into the sunxi-3.4 kernel sources, works 
> mostly 
> > > > > fine (partially thanks to a bunch of workarounds). It is good 
> enough 
> > > > > for running and/or developing OpenGL ES applications. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Allwinner devices have had a reasonably good OpenGL ES support in 
> > > > > GNU/Linux via the Mali binary blob for roughly two years already 
> > > > > (the installation instructions are available in the linux-sunxi 
> wiki). 
> > > > > In addition, a relatively popular Raspberry Pi board could have 
> been 
> > > > > also used to develop OpenGL ES applications just fine. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The intention was to ensure that when the open source Lima driver 
> > > > > is finally ready, it can run a wide selection of useful OpenGL ES 
> > > > > applications which were to be developed. 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the answer. 
> > > > 
> > > > I have r3p0 running as it should, and never said it was not good. 
> > > > "good enough" is never "good enough" for a developer. 
> > > 
> > > OK. 
> > > 
> > > > Yes i could go with Raspberry PI board, better support, better 
> > > community, 
> > > 
> > > Well, this "better support" thing is very much subjective and 
> > > stereotypical. 
> > > 
> > > > etc.. but i prefer ODROID and i have my reasons.. 
> > > > Your work is remarkable, indeed. 
> > > > 
> > > > The *real* problem is i want to have linux all the bells and 
> whistles 
> > > > Android have for this platform, my bad. 
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure if I'm a big fan of abstract bells and whistles. I very 
> > > much prefer practical utility. And I would be happy to have reports 
> > > like this: 
> > > 
> > >     "I'm developing this very cool open source OpenGL ES game (or 
> > >     application) and it runs with X FPS using the r3p0 mali drivers, 
> > >     but can be improved to Y FPS with the r3p2 mali drivers" 
> > > 
> > > Instead of 
> > > 
> > >     "I don't like the version number of your mali drivers. The other 
> > >     guys have it bigger, so you really need to catch up" 
> > > 
> > > > But..but..but why you so upset? I did not want to start a war, was 
> just 
> > > a 
> > > > question. 
> > > 
> > > I'm not upset. I'm just explaining why I'm not eager to waste my time 
> > > doing work, which has no clear purpose. 
> > > 
> > > The ball is basically on the OpenGL ES application developers' side. 
> > > Before nitpicking about the drivers, they really need to show their 
> > > commitment by contributing something useful to the free software 
> > > community. Today the drivers are in a *much* better shape than the 
> > > applications. 
> > 
> > There are some people interested in getting this updated 
>
> It's not enough to be casually interested in a bigger version number. 
> These people should show up in the mailing list and provide more 
> convincing reasons. Just see my previous reply. 
>
> > although this is not a trivial task. 
>
> The kernel part is reasonably simple. Because, you know, it's fully 
> open source. You can have a look at this branch: 
>
>     https://github.com/ssvb/linux-sunxi/commits/20140116-mali-r3p2-01rel2 
>
> It is split into 3 patches to make things clear and maintainable: 
>
> 1. Just an unmodified copy of the GPL mali kernel driver from ARM 
> 2. The sunxi adaptation part (mali hardware resources description and 
>    the code for enabling clocks). 
> 3. A 2GB bugfix which is needed for the Cubietruck 
>
> Anyone can do something similar with a newer version of the mali kernel 
> driver if the need arises. 
>
> > Kernel is tuned to server side, and the author has not seen any success 
> > story yet, as a learning pourpose i will try and see if i can get to 
> > somewhere. 
> > https://github.com/dan-and/linux-sunxi 
>
> It is up to dan-and to provide full support for this code and resolve 
> any possible mali issues in it. I have nothing to do with it. 
>
> -- 
> Best regards, 
> Siarhei Siamashka 
>

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