On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Rosimildo DaSilva <rosimi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jon, > Thanks for yours always informative posts. > > I think someone should come up with a HDMI ==> CSI (MIPI ) interface board > for these OrangePI PCs... it would be owesome...., instead of these gspca > crap... they have now.
newer Allwinner chips such as the A64 support MIPI displays. For example the Pine64 uses the A64, but I don't know if they exposed the DSI interface. > > > Jon, maybe you can help me... I am looking for an 720p or 1080p camera, H264 > compressed video, and with Wired ( and WI-FI a plus ), with AUDIO input... > something that has also AUDIO as input and not just video. > If you know any cameras with that capability, and in the US$50 range, let me > know. Look for little surveillance camera like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Vanxse%C2%AE-Pinhole-Security-Network-Surveillance/dp/B00QRM9AFG/ref=sr_1_1 They contain those standardized, square camera boards I linked to earlier. You need to access these over Ethernet. Internally most run Linux on an ARM9. The Sonix chips support audio input. Don't know if that taobao board exposes it. Here is C920 for $60 shipped. http://www.wirelessoemshop.com/logitech-hd-pro-webcam-c920/ It was at Amazon last week for $50 shipped but it is sold out now. If you drop h.264 and just use MJPG you can find USB cameras for $10. Look for deals on web cams. All web cams stream video and audio. > > THanks, R > > > > > On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 1:09:32 PM UTC-6, Jon Smirl wrote: >> >> gspca is around 10 years old and it pre-dates UVC. >> >> The 291 image chip can take higher resolution stills, but mine only >> has a 720P sensor on it. >> The 292 image chip has similar performance at 1080P. >> >> I have wasted far too much time trying to get Allwinner cameras >> working properly and I won't touch them any more. >> >> Our current product uses a more advanced camera similar to this one: >> >> http://world.taobao.com/item/521668890252.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.ekoWOi#detail >> But these boards are too hard to interface with for casual use. The >> main advantage to these chips is that they can simultaneously provide >> three versions of the h.264 stream at different resolutions. The Sonix >> chips are single stream but far easier to use. >> >> This is cheapest, decent h.264 720P camera I camera I am aware of - $6.12 >> >> http://world.taobao.com/item/527850462938.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.d9CEzd#detail >> You would need to attach to it using Ethernet, USB access requires >> custom firmware. >> >> Here are all of the modes supported by the 291 chips. >> Note that it supports 720P30 h.264 >> >> this first mode is uncompressed, 480Mb USB limits it to 720P5 >> jonsmirl@terra:/work/gm/linux-3.3-fa$ v4l2-ctl -d /dev/video1 >> --list-formats-ext >> ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT >> Index : 0 >> Type : Video Capture >> Pixel Format: 'YUYV' >> Name : YUYV 4:2:2 >> Size: Discrete 1280x720 >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) >> Size: Discrete 640x480 >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) >> Size: Discrete 320x240 >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) >> >> Both MJPG and h.264 work at 720P30. >> Index : 1 >> Type : Video Capture >> Pixel Format: 'MJPG' (compressed) >> Name : Motion-JPEG >> Size: Discrete 1280x720 >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) >> Size: Discrete 640x480 >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) >> Size: Discrete 320x240 >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) >> >> jonsmirl@terra:/work/gm/linux-3.3-fa$ v4l2-ctl -d /dev/video2 >> --list-formats-ext >> ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT >> Index : 0 >> Type : Video Capture >> Pixel Format: 'H264' (compressed) >> Name : H.264 >> Size: Discrete 1280x720 >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) >> Size: Discrete 640x480 >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) >> Size: Discrete 320x240 >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 8:49 AM, @lex <alex....@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Thanks Jon. >> > >> > I have some thoughts on this proposed hardware solution: >> > >> > * This camera will not be recognized as uvc usb device, unless you add >> > it to >> > the device list, no big deal i think. >> > Your kernel is 3.3 but i think you or someone else already added it to >> > uvc >> > device list. (i may be wrong), >> > >> > * Orange PI ONE has only one USB, so you will need to access the device >> > remotely, >> > >> > * Grabbing the video can be done with V4l2 as usual, >> > >> > * I tested here a usb Labtec gspca camera which is VGA JPEG 30 FPS, and >> > its >> > performance is about ~9 fps, that means USB camera tend to perform below >> > specifications when not in Desktop, may be the usb bandwidth is a >> > constraint, >> > >> > * Original OPI camera is $ 5.90 while the one you pointed is $ 8.52 plus >> > some usb cable and may need some wiring/soldering, >> > >> > * Logitec is out of question, i cannot get one for less than $ 100.00. >> > And >> > considering spending $ 10.00 / 15.00 on a sbc board and another $ 100.00 >> > is >> > only viable if you don't want to mess with software. >> > >> > * No tinkering, no learning and no solution for the upcoming Allwinner >> > new >> > devices going this route. >> > >> > So, guys lets's get back to work, the fight is not over yet. >> > >> > @lex >> > >> > >> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 8:49:42 PM UTC-3, Jon Smirl wrote: >> >> >> >> [33718.237465] usb 2-5.1: new high-speed USB device number 12 using >> >> ehci-pci >> >> [33718.782014] usb 2-5.1: new high-speed USB device number 13 using >> >> ehci-pci >> >> [33719.121687] usb 2-5.1: New USB device found, idVendor=18e3, >> >> idProduct=5100 >> >> [33719.121692] usb 2-5.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=1, >> >> SerialNumber=3 >> >> [33719.121696] usb 2-5.1: Product: USB 2.0 Camera >> >> [33719.121698] usb 2-5.1: Manufacturer: Sonix Technology Co., Ltd. >> >> [33719.121701] usb 2-5.1: SerialNumber: SN0001 >> >> [33719.122631] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB 2.0 Camera >> >> (18e3:5100) >> >> [33719.146885] uvcvideo: Unable to create debugfs 2-13 directory. >> >> [33719.147213] input: USB 2.0 Camera as >> >> /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-5/2-5.1/2-5.1:1.0/input/input15 >> >> jonsmirl@terra:/work/gm/linux-3.3-fa$ >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:26 PM, @lex <alex....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Can you please tell me the idVendor and idProduct for this camera? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 8:08:21 PM UTC-3, @lex wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Err... That was new to me. Without researching how do you grab video >> >> >> from >> >> >> this generic driver how good this camera performs? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 7:52:17 PM UTC-3, Jon Smirl wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:42 PM, @lex <alex....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> > Seems to be a nice camera, but that depends on your kernel >> >> >>> > version. >> >> >>> > There is no support for SN9C291 OV9712 on kernel v3.4.39. >> >> >>> > And no support on odroid-3.8.30 on my U3 also. >> >> >>> > Don't know about armbian legacy kernel version, but i don't >> >> >>> > expect >> >> >>> > there >> >> >>> > will be support also. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> The camera does not need a specific driver, it uses the generic USB >> >> >>> Video driver. >> >> >>> It is like a USB mouse or keyboard, you don't need a specific >> >> >>> driver >> >> >>> for every different one. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Drivers/Multimedia/Media USB/USB Video Class (UVC) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Kconfig USB_VIDEO_CLASS >> >> >>> >> >> >>> This support dates way back to around 2.4 or so. Almost every >> >> >>> desktop >> >> >>> web cam works using this driver. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 4:41:59 PM UTC-3, Jon Smirl wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Manuel Braga >> >> >>> >> <mul....@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 05:53:36 -0800 (PST) Rosimildo DaSilva >> >> >>> >> > <rosi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I did not mention, but I founf two issues withe blobs: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> a) Motion Detection causes segmentation fault, whenever >> >> >>> >> >> enabled. >> >> >>> >> >> b) FFMPEG complains that timestamp ( PTS/DTS ) are missing on >> >> >>> >> >> the >> >> >>> >> >> H264 stream generated by the encoder... I've tried many >> >> >>> >> >> things ( >> >> >>> >> >> code >> >> >>> >> >> is commented out ), but nothing worked. >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > There is another issue, that i believe to be important. >> >> >>> >> > But for whatever reasons, it has to be constantly remembered >> >> >>> >> > about >> >> >>> >> > its >> >> >>> >> > existence. >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > And that issue is: >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > c) The proprietaries binary blobs don't have a clear license >> >> >>> >> > attached. >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > And in the copyright law, any "things" with "no license" by >> >> >>> >> > default >> >> >>> >> > fell >> >> >>> >> > in the "all rights reserved". >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> I gave up fighting with Allwinner's encoder long ago. It is far >> >> >>> >> easier >> >> >>> >> to just plug in a USB based h.264 camera. You can easily buy >> >> >>> >> ones >> >> >>> >> from >> >> >>> >> Logitech for $50. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> If you want it at the hardware level, look at chips from Sonix. >> >> >>> >> Here >> >> >>> >> is a board based on the SN9C291 for $8.50. The bare chips are >> >> >>> >> about >> >> >>> >> $4. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> https://world.taobao.com/item/40004211822.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.zGiipg#detail >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Note that this PCBA is the same price as most bare image sensors >> >> >>> >> mounted on a flex cable. Plus I find it much easier to wire >> >> >>> >> things >> >> >>> >> with a simple USB cable instead of an FFC. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> The Sonix chips will appear as USB UVC devices when plugged into >> >> >>> >> Linux >> >> >>> >> and they will need no special drivers. 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