Bleech...

> This is what I'm talking about you ignoring the points I make.
> Just because you ignore doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

However, it's perfectly OK for _you_ to ignore the points
that _I_ make, because when _you_ ignore points they
magically end up not really mattering.

But ... it's best when you ignore my points which respond
to ones you've made ... using that as proof that I'm just
ignoring what you say!  How killer!  What a troll!  Truly
a win-win situation all around.


> However, since you refuse to listen, I'll finish making the patch and
> send it to Greg without your blessing.

<sarcasm>
Oooh ... JE is SOOO cooperative and willing to listen that
he can with perfect sanctity climb up on any high horse.
It's OK for him to throw stones -- he's wholly without sin.
He is a paragon of constructive cooperation, an example
that everyone should always follow.  And his code has
never, ever, had even the smallest itty bitty problem.
</sarcasm>


> It may work most of the time, but it's definately not guaranteed.
> Once again, I refer you to the actual code in 2.4. Go read it, please.

Yes, I know about that "it's not guaranteed" bug.  It appears
only with device drivers that don't implement disconnect()
correctly ... they keep trying to talk to devices after the driver
returns from its disconnect() method.

Those secondary failure modes can hang around for years
and years ... an apallingly long time.  Did you realize that most
of the other Linux kernel subsystems have them?  And they're
still getting removed?  That's not a ding on Linux ... most big
software systems work that way.  EXCEPT, it would seem,
for this bit of USB code, which is so flawless that it hasn't ever
shown any such behaviors.  (At least, with UHCI, the "one true
driver" that's now beginning to look stable.)  In fact, I wonder
why anything ever had to change in the 2.5 stack, it's so flawless.

- Dave



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