On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> No, the design goal of "hot-pluggable" is that it indicates that
> the device can disappear any moment. Nothing at all about SCSI
> compliance.

You're talking past each other.

Server people think that "hot-pluggable" means "I will tell the system 
before it goes away". Normal users consider hot-pluggable to be "I can rip 
the thing out by hand".

I'm with the normal users - I think the server guys are really talking 
about "controlled shutdown and insert", not "hot-pluggable", but hey, the 
fact is, there's two kinds.

Trying to enumerate three values with one bit is counterproductive.

So we should _not_ have one bit that says "hotpluggable", we should have
separate bits for "should survive a unexpected disconnect" (_real_
hotplug) and "can be disconnected with operator help" (server
"pseudo-hotplug").

USB devices are obviously supposed to be able to just be ripped out, ie
"unexpected", real hotplug.  While FC etc tends to be "pseudo-hotplug".

                        Linus



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