On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > No, the design goal of "hot-pluggable" is that it indicates that > the device can disappear any moment. Nothing at all about SCSI > compliance.
You're talking past each other. Server people think that "hot-pluggable" means "I will tell the system before it goes away". Normal users consider hot-pluggable to be "I can rip the thing out by hand". I'm with the normal users - I think the server guys are really talking about "controlled shutdown and insert", not "hot-pluggable", but hey, the fact is, there's two kinds. Trying to enumerate three values with one bit is counterproductive. So we should _not_ have one bit that says "hotpluggable", we should have separate bits for "should survive a unexpected disconnect" (_real_ hotplug) and "can be disconnected with operator help" (server "pseudo-hotplug"). USB devices are obviously supposed to be able to just be ripped out, ie "unexpected", real hotplug. While FC etc tends to be "pseudo-hotplug". Linus ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, use the last form field at: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-devel