Alan Stern wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2006, Foli Ayivoh wrote:
> 
> > Hi Alan,
> > 
> > I could not find "boot device" related stuff in the thread!?
> 
> What?  You mentioned it in the very first email message of this thread.  
> In http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=115143262828836&w=2
> you wrote:
> 
>       Two issues on USB:
> 
>       First:
>       USB-HDD boot device hangs
> 
> That's where "boot device" related stuff first appeared in this thread.
That's true! But I meant this thread:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=114929015907507&w=2
that you refer to in your e-mail. (e-mail attached) Sorry for the confusion!
> 
> > Could the value of "Interface Descriptor: bInterfaceSubClass"
> > or "Interface Descriptor: bInterfaceProtocol" that might differes
> > between _boot_device_ and _not_boot_device_
> 
> No.  That refers to something entirely different.
> 
> > This is from my keyboard:
> >     Interface Descriptor:
> >       bLength                 9
> >       bDescriptorType         4
> >       bInterfaceNumber        0
> >       bAlternateSetting       0
> >       bNumEndpoints           1
> >       bInterfaceClass         3 Human Interface Devices
> >       bInterfaceSubClass      1 Boot Interface Subclass
> >       bInterfaceProtocol      2 Mouse
> >       iInterface              0
> 
> The "Boot Interface Subclass" means that the BIOS will be able to use the 
> keyboard at boot time, even before you have loaded an operating system.
> 
> > Oh, just forget what I ask right now :-(  I just get a hang on the 
> > usb-storage-device _not_ connected as boot-device
> > 
> > 
> > btw. what is -104
> > cce35c60 3670790155 C Bi:006:06 -104 0
> 
> -104 means that the request was cancelled by the computer.  Probably
> because the device took too long to respond.
> 
> Alan Stern
> 
On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Foli Ayivoh wrote:

> Alan Stern wrote:
> > 
> > The dump shows that the drive just stopped responding at one spot and then 
> > was reset.  Sometimes devices do that; nobody seems to know why.
> > 
> > The real test is to use CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DEBUG when you boot off the USB 
> > device.
> > 
> > Alan Stern
> > 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> here are the requested dumps of dmesg and usbmon:
> usb-storage-dmesg
> usb-storage-usbmon

It's quite possible that you're suffering from the same problem as Vivek 
Dharmadhikari in this thread:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=114929015907507&w=2

The symptoms appear to be the same.  The only way to tell for certain is 
to use a USB bus analyzer.

Briefly, his problem was that the EHCI host controller in his computer 
sometimes does not send a particular type of packet (PING) when it is 
supposed to.  It's a hardware bug, and we don't know what triggers it or 
how to make the driver work around it.

Alan Stern

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