On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 02:27:02PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, Greg KH wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:03:51AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > Greg:
> > > 
> > > I'm working on a patch to create class devices for USB hubs.  Is this a 
> > > reasonable thing to do?  We already have classes for USB hosts and 
> > > general 
> > > USB devices.
> > 
> > If you think you want an easy way to find all usb hubs in the system,
> > and /sys/bus/usb/drivers/hub/ isn't good enough for it, then yes, a
> > class could work.
> 
> In this case I guess a class isn't really needed.

I agree.

> > > I don't have a good understanding of how class devices are supposed to
> > > work and what they should be used for.  Nor is it clear which of the 
> > > class-device APIs should be used.
> > 
> > Traditionally classes are used for when we want to export a device node
> > for the device.  In this case, like usb hosts, that isn't.
> 
> Would it be fair to say that classes are also appropriate when you want to
> have a single API available for a bunch of different drivers?  The way all
> Ethernet drivers share a single API?

Yes, that is a very good description.

> The usb_host class doesn't fit either of these paradigms.  Perhaps it 
> shouldn't exist?  It doesn't seem to contain anything very useful, other 
> than the list of all the hosts.  They could just as well be replaced by 
> symlinks.

Yeah, I want to drop the usb_host class stuff.  I started to mess with
it a few weeks ago, but it's a mess, and I got side-tracked by more
important things, like breaking every single input driver :)

I'll get back to it soon and post a proposed patch.

> (Note that ehci-hcd and ohci-hcd both store their debugging attributes
> under /sys/class/usb_host.  This appears to be a holdover from the past;  
> obviously those files belong in debugfs.)

Agreed.

thanks,

greg k-h

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