Thanks.  I just got a notice, for the first time, about HTML... 
Didn't realize that I was doing that, but this message should be plain
text.  Let me know if it isn't.

It's bad news about my MB probably being the culprit; I've got an MSI
K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI board, which is to say a board with only 3 slots
(since the MB contains goodies like USB, firewire, NICs, etc.).

Does anyone know for sure that the MB is just never going to worth
with Linux for hi-speed USB, or are there other things to try?

Specifically, I can still try a BIOS update, noacpi, rpm updates, etc?
 Or is that just a lost cause?

Steve


On 6/23/05, Stephen J. Gowdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BTW, this post didn't make it to the list due the HTML attachment. Alan's
> response probably did....
> 
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Steve Listopad wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for everyone's suggestions.
> >
> > Progress:
> >
> > Wow. Well, I decided to take a couple of ideas from multiple posts on this
> > topic as a first attempt at things, before I did the more 'drastic'
> > things...
> >
> > I did the 'rmmod ehci-hcd', and plugged in the device, and, well, it was
> > recognized as a mass storage device:
> > (note "full speed", not "high speed")
> >
> > Jun 22 16:59:16 mybox kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using
> > ohci_hcd and address 6
> > Jun 22 16:59:16 mybox kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage
> > devices
> > Jun 22 16:59:21 mybox kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE Rev:
> > 9144
> > Jun 22 16:59:21 mybox kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00
> > Jun 22 16:59:21 mybox kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi6,
> > channel 0, id 0, lun 0
> > Jun 22 16:59:21 mybox scsi.agent[11017]: disk at
> > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb2/2-3/2-3:1.0/host6/target6:0:0/6:0:0:0
> >
> > So, being greedy for speed, I modprobed ehci-hcd, and got this:
> >
> > Jun 22 17:02:02 mybox kernel: usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using
> > ehci_hcd and address 4
> > Jun 22 17:02:02 mybox kernel: scsi8 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage
> > devices
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE Rev:
> > 9144
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox kernel: SCSI device sdc: 990976 512-byte hdwr sectors
> > (507 MB)
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox kernel: sdc: Write Protect is off
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox kernel: sdc: assuming drive cache: write through
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox kernel: SCSI device sdc: 990976 512-byte hdwr sectors
> > (507 MB)
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox kernel: sdc: Write Protect is off
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox kernel: sdc: assuming drive cache: write through
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox kernel: sdc: sdc1
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi8,
> > channel 0, id 0, lun 0
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox scsi.agent[12674]: disk at
> > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-3/1-3:1.0/host8/target8:0:0/8:0:0:0
> > Jun 22 17:02:07 mybox fstab-sync[12723]: added mount point /media/KODAK for
> > /dev/sdc1
> >
> > Woo Hoo! I was able to mount the thing, and see the pictures/movies taken
> > with my camera.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the thrill of victory turned into the agony of defeat!
> >
> > I wrote a shell script to copy the files to a location on my hard drive
> > (just to echo each file as it was being copied, to give me an idea of how
> > fast things were going)... It got through, say, a dozen files, and then the
> > computer locked hard. I mean frozen solid. No periodic disk cache writes, no
> > nothing. And nothing in the logs (after I rebooted), to even give me a hint.
> >
> > So, at this point, I'm not even sure I understand what I've discovered. Why
> > could I modprobe the high-speed usb, and still have the device recognized? (
> > i.e. why did I have to do an rmmod to begin with?) And, would this somehow
> > point to a problem with my pc, or with the device? Unfortunately, I only
> > have a usb mouse and keyboard, and I doubt that they're hi-speed, so using
> > them as test devices probably wouldn't tell me much (though I did try my SD
> > card reader in the ports I used for the mouse and keyboard, and it still
> > wasn't recognized. Only rmmod caused anything to happen).
> >
> > So, I feel like I'v made good progress, but not sure in what direction.
> > Would I need any updated usb packages? If so, how would I determine the
> > versions I have in the first place?
> >
> > Feeling Like I'm gettin' close,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On 6/22/05, Alan Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, Stephen J. Gowdy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Try the FAQ suggestions for "device not accepting address".
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, Steve Listopad wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Picked up an SD Card reader/writer to use, to transfer digital camera
> > > > > pictures to my FC3 box, instead of using the s l o w dock that came
> > > with the
> > > > > camera.
> > > > >
> > > > > Plugging the little bugger in throws lots of errors. Not sure where to
> > > begin
> > > > > diagnosing the problem, but I am assuming that the thing SHOULD work,
> > > and
> > > > > that it has to be some type of setup issue (I hope).
> > > > >
> > > > > Other notes: I am assuming that I don't have to 'format' the thing,
> > > since it
> > > > > already has pictures on it; is that a bad assumption? At any rate, I
> > > haven't
> > > > > gotten the system to recognize the thing, so haven't been able to
> > > mount it,
> > > > > etc. My system is fully updated (with the repositories that are active
> > > on a
> > > > > fresh install of FC3, no additional repositories used, yet).
> > > > >
> > > > > Suggestions?
> > >
> > > The error messages in your log indicate the card reader isn't
> > > communicating properly with your computer. In addition to the suggestions
> > > in the linux-usb.org <http://linux-usb.org> FAQ, you can try "rmmod
> > > ehci-hcd". This will leave
> > > you running on a USB 1.1 controller instead of the USB 2.0 controller, so
> > > you won't get the benefit of high speed transfers. On the other hand, it
> > > may be that the hardware isn't quite so finicky when running at the lower
> > > speed, so perhaps it will start to work.
> > >
> > > Alan Stern
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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