On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 01:29:28AM +0300, didi wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 12:52:47AM +0300, didi wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 02:52:29PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am a complete ignorant regarding bitkeeper. Are they ordered in the
> > > > > order they were applied?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes.  Or rather, the reverse order -- from latest to earliest.
> > > 
> > > Are you sure about that? I downloaded all (using wget), and when I
> > > apply, sometimes patch says the patch seems to have already been
> > > applied.

I'm not familiar with all the details of Bitkeeper.  Maybe some of the 
patches are listed out of order.

> > Specifically, I now tried applying the first 66 patches (from
> > 1.1784.29.71 to 1.1784.39.1, in that order). I chose this cut point as
> > according to the timestamps in the patches it seemed to be the last
> > patch applied on some day, so I guessed it should have been some stable
> > point - I did not want to pick randomnly a point in the middle of the
> > work. And it didn't help. Besides the problem above (mainly about the
> > one before the last - 1.1784.38.27, most of it was rejected, and seemed
> > rather important to me), the kernel compiled ok, booted ok, but had no
> > network :-(

That sounds inconvenient, but for your purposes (testing the card reader) 
it doesn't matter whether the network stack is working.

> Well, I rebooted to other kernels and still no network. I powered off
> the machine, booted it, and it had network also in this rc1+66patches
> kernel.
> 
> But I decided to create clear logs for rc1 vs rc2, and found out the
> regression isn't in a single point.

I don't understand what you mean.

>  This currently makes me thinking of
> quitting this whole thing.
> 
> In 2.6.7, everything works, both with and without hald. And there are no
> recurring messages (apparently triggered by hald).

Probably that only indicates that hald doesn't work correctly under 2.6.7.

>  In 2.6.8-rc1, with
> hald running, when I plug in the pen, I do get the devices in
> /proc/partitions, but mount fails, and the devices disappear from
> /proc/partitions. If I kill hald, mount/cp/umount succeed. In
> 2.6.8-rc2, when hald is running, either I do not get devices at all in
> /proc/partitions, or they disappear after a few seconds, even when I do
> nothing, and there are recurring messages from the kernel. When I kill
> hald, mount/cp/umount all work.

It sounds like hald is doing what it's supposed to do, and the pen can't 
handle it.

> Detaild logs are in
> <http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~didi/usb/logs-usbstorage.tar.gz>.
> It's a 300KB file, when opened it's 15MB. These are three
> syslog-generated files - syslog, kern.log, and debug. In debug you can
> see messages I inserted with logger - search for 'root:' - telling what
> I was doing. They have large duplicates - basically all the kernel debug
> messages appear in all 3. Use diff or something to see only the changes.
> 
> I am now leaving until Friday morning (IDT). Unless someone gives me
> some interesting pointer, I think I'll stay for now with 2.6.7. I know
> it's an old kernel, but it does work for me, for now. I think. I did not
> yet try to see if hald works etc., but I hope it will.
> 
> In any case, thanks a lot for all your work,

You're welcome, and good luck.

Alan Stern



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