On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Johan Hovold <jo...@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:54:10PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 2:23:46 PM CEST Johan Hovold wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:16:59AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Adding Rafael and linux-pm to Cc as well.
>> > >
>> > > * Felipe Balbi <ba...@kernel.org> [180619 01:23]:
>> > > > This is a direct consequence of not paying attention to the order of
>> > > > things. If driver were to assume that pm_domain->activate() would do 
>> > > > the
>> > > > right thing for the device -- meaning that probe would run with an
>> > > > active device --, then we wouldn't need that pm_runtime_get() call on
>> > > > probe at all. Rather we would follow the sequence:
>> > > >
>> > > >         pm_runtime_forbid()
>> > > >         pm_runtime_set_active()
>> > > >         pm_runtime_enable()
>> > > >
>> > > >         /* do your probe routine */
>> > > >
>> > > >         pm_runtime_put_noidle()
>> > > >
>> > > > Then you remove you would need to call pm_runtime_get_noresume() to
>> > > > balance out the pm_runtime_put_noidle() there.
>> >
>> > > > (If you need to know why the pm_runtime_put_noidle(), remember that
>> > > > pm_runtime_set_active() increments the usage counter, so
>> > > > pm_runtime_put_noidle is basically allowing pm_runtime to happen as 
>> > > > soon
>> > > > as userspace writes "auto" to /sys/..../power/control)
>> >
>> > That's not correct; pm_runtime_set_active() only increments the usage
>> > counter of a parent (under some circumstances), so unless you have bus
>> > code incrementing the usage counter before probe, the above
>> > pm_runtime_put_noidle() would actually introduce an imbalance.
>>
>> No, it wouldn't.  It balances the incrementation in pm_runtime_forbid().
>
> Right, but even if you take the whole sequence, which included
> pm_runtime_forbid(), consider what happens when pm_runtime_allow() is
> later called through sysfs (see below).
>
>> > And note that that's also the case even if you meant to say that
>> > *pm_runtime_forbid()* increments the usage counter (which it does).
>>
>> Why is it?
>>
>> Surely, after
>>
>> pm_runtime_forbid(dev);
>> pm_runtime_put_noidle(dev);
>>
>> the runtime PM usage counter of dev will be the same as before, won't it?
>
> Sure, but the imbalance, or rather inconsistent state, has already been
> introduced.
>
> Consider the following sequence of events:
>
>                                         usage count
>                                         0
> probe()
>         pm_runtime_forbid()             1
>         pm_runtime_set_active()
>         pm_runtime_enable()
>         pm_runtime_put_noidle()         0
>
> Here nothing is preventing the device from runtime suspending, despite
> runtime PM being forbidden. In fact, it will typically be suspended due
> to the pm_request_idle() in driver_probe_device(). If later we have:
>
> echo auto > power/control
>         pm_runtime_allow()              -1

OK, you have a point.

After calling pm_runtime_forbid() the driver should allow user space
to unblock runtime PM for the device - or call pm_runtime_allow()
itself.

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>
> And if runtime pm is later again forbidden:
>
> echo on > power/control
>         pm_runtime_forbid()             0
>
> then the device will not be resumed.

But I don't quite see why that will be the case.  rpm_resume() will
still be called and it doesn't look at the usage counter.
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