try www.eclipse.org Eclipse provides a nice IDE for Java development that is
essentially the same on Windows and Linux. I have used it for a small amount
of Web service development on both platforms and was very impressed with the
portability. It takes a bit of setting up on Linux compared with Windows
(what doesn't), but integrates nicely once it's done.

If you don't like Java then good luck.

---Original Message---
From: Rex Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri 4/2/2004 11:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: IDEs....

Don Gould wrote:

> Are there many programmers on this list?

Yep.

> I've spent years programming in VB, FoxPro, SQL(variants a many), VBA,
ASP,

You have my sympathies.

> I've yet to actually see a fully interactive GUI based development and
> debugging enviornment such as you get with VB, ASP (Visual Interdev) and
the
> rest of the Microsoft tools.

It sounds like you need to learn emacs.  I tried once for a few months, 
and while it's an impressive toolkit/IDE, it wasn't for me.

Personally, i use vim.  It doesn't integrate a debugger, but since i'm 
programming mostly in java & some C, it doesn't need to either.  It is 
however the fastest editor on the face of the planet, and navigating 
huge projects is rather quick.

> I'd start developing more applications for the Linux platform but I've yet
> to see anything other than very basic 'code and compile' CLI enviornments
> that I used to use back in the early 80's.  That to me is a huge step
> backwards.

You are just looking at the lowest level.  UNIX, and by inference linux, 
uses small building blocks.  Don't like the look of gdb?  There are GUI 
interfaces aplenty (even emacs has one built in).  They still use gdb 
underneath.  This is typical.

Rex

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