Hi, Ok, what about sports? X runs around like an idiot doing dumb things. The ref blows the whistle. He may pull out a card and wave it, or the ref is content to wave his hands. The idiotic behaviour stops immediately. But did you notice? The ref did not descend to the level of the idiot and reply in kind.
In those sports situations I could think of, the idiotic behaviour was stopped with some measure of restraint. The crowd just booed. Fine. Occassionaly, members of the crowd respond with equal idiotness and threw stuff on the field etc. This was just aweful. Conclusion, we do not respond in kind. We still try to behave with some measure of restraint. ======================================================================== > I think that poster recently wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in another > setting!! Daryn - it is good to see your contribution. But, I wonder if you could be so kind as to explain. I am a big boy now (sigh, and still growing bigger) and can take public correction. Why? What social rule did I violate? What did I do wrong? http://jerz.setonhill.edu/writing/e-text/e-mail.htm # Write a meaningful subject line. # Keep the message focused and readable. # Avoid attachments. # Identify yourself clearly. # Be kind -- don't flame. # Proofread. # Don't assume privacy. # Distinguish between formal and informal situations. # Respond Promptly. # Show Respect and Restraint. I thought (hopefully incorrectly) that linux users are capable of listening to, and thinking about a different point of view. Derek. ========================================================================== On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Daryn Hanright wrote: > OK what about sports? CLUG is like an informal (unlike more formal things like > work, conferences etc that you have mentioned) gathering of people with a > common > interest. Kinda like a sports club. Now if your acting like an idiot on the > sports field, you are in no certain terms told that by fans, teammates, > opponents, coaches, captains, referees even! > > Its not a polictically correct thing, but a reality. > > I think that poster recently wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in another > setting!! > Its a matter of degrees as far as I'm concerned. I've been on this list mostly > lurking for 6-8 months now, and it was the absolute only occasion where he > pushed me over my limits of patience. Everything else has been great! > > cheers > Daryn > > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 01:06:46PM +1300, Derek Smithies wrote: > > Hi, > > I am being obnoxious here, and maybe someone will flame me :-). > > However, I am forcing the point, and trying to provoke someone > > into writing a reasoned logical explanation why it is ok to > > publically flame > > > > Now, Steve has expressed an opinion that has been repeated elsewhere. > > This opinion is contradictory. > > It is ok to flame idiots, but not ok to flame newbies. > > > > What do you do with idiot newbies? Publically flame them? Or not? > > > > The answer is to correct them, but nicely. Public idiots are definately > > corrected, publically, but they are definately corrected in a socially > > mature fashion. > > Because someone is yelling and screaming publically, do we descend to > > their level, and yell/scream at them to shutup? Nope. > > > > Derek. > > > > > > > -- Derek Smithies Ph.D. This PC runs pine on linux for email IndraNet Technologies Ltd. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine ph +64 3 365 6485 Please do not notify me when (apparently) receiving a Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/ windows virus from me......
