On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:14:58 +1300 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 13:05 +1300, John Rye wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:05:04 +1300 > > Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I finally used the the "Other_OS" solution to my "Why won't it do what > > I want" situation and made a clean start. > > > > I'm not entirely certain what I did differently during the install > > itself the second time but I was able to access get access to the root > > account and took the path of running wvdialconf first to locate the > > modem and then started hunting about for every other ppp and > > network related file. > > what do you want the root account for? the first created user can do all > of root's tasks via sudo. I did use 'sudo', Sorry Nick, habit :-) > what was wrong with the menu item for configuring the dialup network? > perhaps you could tell us what actually went wrong the first time > around? I have no idea what went wrong first time round, or if in fact there was ever anything 'wrong' other than my being quite unfamiliar with the Debian way of doing things and not having or being able to find the tools I was used to using. This still applies, but I'm getting there; courtesy Google. There was nothing 'wrong' with using the network menu option, which in fact I did use initially, the problem as such was that having used it I still couldn't connect to my ISP _AND_ browse. It was at this point that I headed for the CLI. > > It wasn't too hit and miss but very messy for a start because I was > > totally confused by the slighty but significantly different structure > > of /etc in particular, especially in regard to networking. > > > different to what? To what I'm used to, Mandrake, which I've been using for 5 years. The locations of the config files were often different (or differently named) and it was only with lots of exploring, 'cat'ing, 'ls -l'ing and 'less'ing of likely locations that I got to the point where things started to do what I expected. > > The one utility I really really missed during this part of the process > > was mc (Midnight Commander) which I use as my CLI navigation > > tool on all my other machines. > > > > yes its great isn't it, its the first thing I install on any distro if > it is not already there! Ahh, yes, but first you just gotta get Dial-Up Networking working :-)) > > > The whole process took about two and a half hours to get to the point > > where I could logon to my ISP and start hunting Google and the Ubuntu > > wiki pages for the other bits and pieces I was "missing". > > > > Overall I do like what I see, however I don't think this is a > > distribution I would recommend to a Newbie as a start point to > > the Linux world. Mostly because it requires a pretty good > > understanding on how Linux works to get something as basic > > as Dial-up Networking up and running. > > > > Thanks to all who pointed me in various and somethimes totally > > confusing directions. Cheers John
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