On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 11:01:28AM +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> > > And blowing a couple hundred dollars on something that needs the warranty
> > > voided to do what is needed, isn’t really that useful.
> > i expect that it is still cheaper than any other hardware for the same
> > purpose.  who cares about warranty at that price?
> Money doesn't grow on trees in NZ like it does in Europe.

huh?
wrt54g: $150
cheapest mainboard: $56 + cheapest cpu: $83 ­> $139 + assorted extra costs.
a multiport card i could not even find to buy.

so if you buy stuff to build a router, you can't beat the price of the
wrt54g. if you build it from used parts you don't get warranty.

the point i am trying to make here is that there are a lot of hidden
costs and issues that you need to take in consideration that make a
device like the wrt54g very attractive.

> > maintaining a self built machine also costs a lot of time.
> Eh? I got an old IBM PS/1 25MHz '486 about 3 years ago as a firewall.
> Put more memory in it, then IPCop on it, and it's gone continuously ever 
> since. I have kept the IPCop s/w more or less up to date. 3 or 4 X 20 minutes 
> or so for updates is not a lot of time over several years.

then you got lucky.
the hardware i got failed when we had a poweroutage.
and i was not around to fix it. result was months of downtime for that
machine and the network behind it. 

we recently had another powercrash and the machine failed again. i am
looking at a few more months of downtime until i can go there to fix it.
fortunately by now the router is said wrt54g and the machine is just
server. the network behind it is still reachable.

in the meantime i am looking for a piece of hardware that is actually
reliable (such as the cobalt qube, it survived the poweroutage without
even rebooting (despite lack of a ups, show me a pc that can do that))

i too, try to do this cheaply, but the investment in the wrt54g already
paid off.

greetings, martin.
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