On Friday 15 December 2006 22:47, Christopher D Maher wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I was wanting to know everyone's thoughts regarding the value of
> formal education in today's world.
In this city, I'd say "very dubious".
e.g. My daughter achieved an undergraduate degree majoring in Classics 
and English with good marks (B & B+), yet spent a year or more on the 
dole while trying to find a job vaguely commensurate with her 
qualifications and skills. Eventually she got a job, which has 
since 'gone to China', as a factory seamstress.  I have several other 
acquaintances who have had very similar sad experiences. For her 
spending several thousand dollars on a University Education was a 
complete waste of money.

> Specifically of course refering to IT.
Somewhat less dubious, but don't expect that your degree will be an 
immediate meal ticket.

> For example Joe Bloggs comes to turns up to an interview with
> ABCComputers with a brand new degree degree, great skills to perform
> the job (specifics NOT relevant here) and demonstrated practical
> experience.  John Doe also turns up on the same day to ABCComputers
> with no formal education (save high school)  but the same skill level
> (in the employer's opinion) as Mr Bloggs, but much more practical
> experience.

> Who will get the job and why? 
It should be the one who is most literate i.e. the one able to turn out 
correctly spelt, grammatically correct, and unambiguous prose so that 
they can document their work, but here in Christchurch, N.Z. the 
probability that the other employees in the team will be able to relate 
to the newcomer is paramount.

Recently, I've made a couple of postings to /. on the subject.
See:- http://slashdot.org/~chris_sawtell/
Look for the two posting which got decent scores. The rest is mostly /. 
level blather.

OTOH, I also have a friend who achieved a good degree in Comp. Sci. out 
at Ilam. After the requisite year on the dole here in Christchurch, 
four years with a nationally known software house in Auckland, he is 
now earning well over 100,000 pounds sterling per year producing a data 
warehouse system for a Japanese insurance company in London. He is, 
btw, a talented genius in his early thirties and I'm quite sure that he 
deserves every penny.

So my advice is to work hard at a degree, get a decent mark, and to save 
up sufficient dough to buy a ticket out of the country and establish 
yourself somewhere in the 'Real World'. Then enjoy yourself while 
paying off your student loan at a decent rate. 

--
CS

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