Look Kim, 

I hate xtra's attitude and sellout as much as the rest of you, but this post is 
( at best bordering on ) FUD

$ telnet pop3.xtra.co.nz 110
Trying 124.108.96.66...
Connected to pop1.tnz.mail.vip.aue.yahoo.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK hello from popgate 2.38.5 on pop103.tnz.mail.aue.yahoo.com

$ telnet send.xtra.co.nz 25
Trying 124.108.96.68...
Connected to smtp1.tnz.mail.vip.aue.yahoo.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 smtp103.tnz.mail.aue.yahoo.com ESMTP

So insecure, plain old pop3 and smtp services are still running on those 
servers ( and smtp is running on smtp.xtra.co.nz as well ). No way will anyone 
in their right mind leave these services running but not running properly. Not 
even xtra. OK, I'm on ihug so can't actually log in, but...

$ egrep 'smtps|pop3s' /etc/services
ssmtp           465/tcp         smtps           # SMTP over SSL
pop3s           995/tcp                         # POP-3 over SSL
pop3s           995/udp

Looks pretty standard to me. Where's the screw up? It may have been that 
they've changed the dns entries for the servers - so the biggest problem for 
our M$ brethres will ahve been fighting with dns - ipconfig /flushdns should 
fix that.


Steve.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:39:17 +1200
Kim Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> Many people have contacted me about this. It has defiantly been an  
> issue. Xtra screwed up big time.
> The new setting are:
> pop3.xtra.co.nz port 995
> send.xtra.co.nz port 465
> 
>  From Kim
> 
> PS.
> Sorry about the non-threaded post. I was just getting it back out of  
> the other thread.
> 
> 
> On 21/08/2007, at 6:50 PM, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> > On Tue 21 Aug 2007 07:54:51 NZST +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
> >
> >> Continuing to be OT, but do these changes affect xtra customers  
> >> who send
> >> and receive email through the smtp and pop services operated by xtra?
> >> From my reading it is just the webmail that has changed.
> >
> > There may have been more than one change. There is one business in  
> > town
> > where email went dead over the weekend. On ringing xtra on Monday
> > morning, the answer was "we've changed servers to use ssl, your new
> > hosts and ports are ...". That's for fetching with pop3 and sending  
> > via
> > smtp. I forgot what the new host names were, ring and clogg their
> > helpline, they deserve it. The ports were the obvious (pop3s, smtps).
> >
> > Volker
> >
> > -- 
> > Volker Kuhlmann                     is list0570 with the domain in header
> > http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
> 

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