On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 16:46:47 -0300
"Federico Voges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:38:58 -0400, Lee wrote:
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> >On Tuesday 01 October 2002 11:25 am, you wrote:
> >> How is this an about server sales following a good desktop?  This one
> >is> more like RH being the dominant server Linux now wanting to take on
> >> Mandrake, et. al. on the desktop.  Just what Ransome Love was trying to
> >do,> except that the economy and his own public relations ineptitude got
> >in the> way.
> >>
> >> 
> >
> >I don't think so. 3.1 as a desktop is more of an aftert hought than an 
> >attempt to capture the desktop market. After 2.4 and burning his bridges 
> >behind him by insulting the desktop users Love and company made a great 
> >hullaballo about emphasis on big money business server and service
> >markets. 
> 
> Sorry, but OL 3.x Workstation (notice the change from "desktop" to
> "workstation") was targeted to developers. Someone has to develop the
> apps you run on the server (be it COL 3.x server or OpenUNIX 8 using
> LKP). It was never meant to be a desktop and, AFAIK, it was part of the
> plan from the start.

dead horse abuse:

That was the hype. Yet, as a developer, I am struck by the lack of so many
libraries. Some are on the supplamental CD (e.g., gnome and all), but that
is a dead give-away that they were not part of the core distro design.
Also, as a developer, it is hard to just use libs that are a couple of years
old. Developers, by their nature, must stay up with the latest in the tools
they use. Caldera made a snapshot of often outdated-at-release tools and
then have no mechanisim (which could include fostering user support, no one
expectes Caldera to do it all themselves) in place for maintaining 3.1 as a
development platform. Of course, if you only develop for 3.1, then you are
set. Or so you would think. Want to compile a new app? It probably needs
versions of libs/tools that are newer. Fact of life.

The stable Caldera platform need not itself be made with cutting edge
development tools. But not providing the developers you want to use your
system with these tools is a big oversight. Developers are pretty smart and
can usually get and install these tools themselves. But this begs the
question: if you have to locate, maintain and install the tools you need,
just what is this development platform providing that makes it a development
platform? 

JMTCW

> Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore, does it?? :)

As long as the UL base has as a target the desktop. Otherwise, based on past
performance, I doubt Caldera will target this themselves with add-ons.

Still, I am taking a wait and see approach. I would love to be suprised.
OK. I know I will, but how about pleasantly this time...

> 
> Bye!
> Federico Voges
> Socio gerente

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