David hit this one pretty well already. Alternatives? SFTP (based on ssh and available for Windows), HTTPS if they are only pulling, filesharing (samba, NFS, etc...), and many other options. All respectable email systems limit email size, most to 3MB, the daring might go even as high as 10MB, but they tend to be masochists which huge budgets and many RISC-based systems.
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:39:22 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:10:05 -0800 (PST) > Keith Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > This comment is for the thread and not Mr. Bandel specifically. > > > > > > This thread strikes me as being elitist and a common attitude I see > > with IT, IS, (or HMFIC's) people that manage mail services. Fine, > > email is not apropos for sending files, but what do we provide the > > customer as an alternative? My client base is not residential but > > government, quasi-goverment, and non-profits that generate and > > diseminate MS-Word docs, pdfs, jpgs, spreadsheats, and other types of > > non-ASCII information. Calling them morons, Bubbas, or idiots doesn't > > solve the problem. > > There is nothing elitest about preventing folks who don't know and don't > care from causing problems for other users. And the problem is, they > don't care. They're gonna do what they're gonna do and the network is > your problem. Sorry, but those folks are inconsiderate morons and I > apologize for insulting the true morons of the world. I protect myself > and my network from inconsiderate fools. And I provide a web site to > all my customers to do ftp/http transfers. Some are just too lazy. > > SMTP is extremely sensitive to disruptions. Those who run e-mail > servers should know that an interruption of the tcp "circuit" during an > SMTP transfer resets the connection and the mail delivery has to start > again from the beginning. Large e-mails often have to be resent several > times when the network is congested, exacerbating the problem. > > You don't call your mechanic or car manufacturer elitest, yet most cars > with a clutch have a tachometer with a red bar above about 6,000 RPMS. > An idiot bar, so idiots that want to race their cars are warned that > pushing the engine's limits will damage the engine. Fortunately it > won't also damage the roads. We're not so fortunate in IT. Your > reckless actions (e-mailing monstrous databases or CDs) adversely > impacts the road (network) we all share. I feel even more strongly > about system "administrators" that d/l every new kernel instead of the > patch because they're too lazy to learn how to run the patch command. > > > > > My limit is 50mb per email. I've noticed that people that use > > attachments are fairly active email users and as such don't present > > much issue with respect to mail spool size. Also my customer base is > > probably not as large as David's so my bandwidth and disk storage > > requirements are not as steep. > > You can provide what I do, a Samba server on the network for folks to > drag and drop large files into a private directory that's also their web > document root so they can provide an FTP/HTTP link to d/l files. They > are warned that illegal transfer of proprietary files is grounds for > disconnection. > > > > > I'm open for ideas. > > How many more do you need? > > You know, you need a license to drive a car on public roads -- the > license basically means that you understand the "rules of the road". > You may not understand why some roads are marked 25, 35, 40, 45, etc., > but you know how to conduct yourself safely. Your ISP should have > provided you some kind of usage document that constitutes your rules for > using the network. I'll bet most folks haven't read it and don't know > what they can/can't do and should/shouldn't do. > > And since when is requesting that folks be considerate of others being > elitest? > > Try putting the shoe on the other foot and see how it feels to get > flooded with phone calls because one or two inconsiderate morons > have managed to cripple your network (deliberately or accidentally, it > makes no difference to the network, and if they're in violation of the > usage document they signed, then it's deliberate). > > Ciao, > > David A. Bandel > -- > Focus on the dream, not the competition. > Nemesis Racing Team motto > _______________________________________________ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
