On Sunday 22 July 2001 13:27, Ken Moffat wrote:
> I'd like to know the differences I can expect to encounter if I go from
> eD2.4 to RH7.1. There are probably many subtle differences, and I
> thought someone might have some thoughts?
> Got 3 cd's in the RHL7.1 Bible. Popped one in and it wants to install
> right away, fired up X immediately.
> Thanks for any info....
been there, dun that. And am a (very) happy camper. Boo hiss.
The bottom line is, if you select the kde interface as your primary gui (as
opposed to gnome) you won't notice *any* difference in look 'n feel.
The kde2 as shipped is bigger better faster with more functionality than the
kde2 upgrade to Col. The startkde, startx scripts (rc.gui) are a tad more
sophisticated, and the naming conventions a little cleaner. There is a
primary difference in how a su kde gui is invoked (such as kppp) which I
won't go into here, it is 'different' and can be 'adjusted' <ahem>
RH7.1 is a definite theft of the (old) Caldera way of doing things. Either
Kurt was paid a handsome sum to get it right for them, or Ric Moore did the
deed when he got a real job. Since Ric & Calamity shipped me a boxed set, I
owe them one. I think it came under the terms of 'favorable press'.
Gnome remains klunky, but looks better, more 'professional' than it's earlier
cousin. You can run gnome apps (very well) under kde. The reverse is not true
(rh script crew got it wrong)
RH have jumped on the kde bandwagon- bigtime. They are at that point now,
where col was 18 months ago. Using a winning desktop to capture hearts and
minds. (PS I dislike kde2). Supplying a 'me too' kde is not enuff. You have
to put the ancilliaries in. Col did, RH are.
I do a fair bit of devel work on drivers. I tend to be in /etc/fstab more
often than is reasonable. Unlike col, the amd under redhat automounts
correctly without breaking, and, the desktop icons for same are
automagically corrected to reflect fstab, there and then. Ordinarily I would
kill both 'features' because they don't work. These do. It's one less thing I
have to configure about 53 times a day. I haven't installed RH's attempt at
the new devfs having had loss of hair follices previously. But, I suspect,
they've got their act together better than me.
I haven't delved into the redhat file structure too deeply, haven't had to,
don't need to. The whole 'experience' so far has been pleasant to say the
least as it suits my desktop needs exceptionally well. (server might be a
different story). If anything, whereas I *had* to be aware of file structure
and naming conventions with Caldera, under Redhat, the issues are invisible.
Abiword (one of the 'ancillaries' mentioned above) shows Koffice for what it
is, pathetic.
My concern has always been a managed file system (aka rpm) and the up2date
automater is superb for that purpose the whole $)**(*#$_*& rpm issue has gone
away and died somewhere.
Of course, and naturally, do a FULL install when you start using a 'new'
distro. You can always backtrack later.
As for 'subtle differences', the majors, as opposed to subtle, are always
when you tailor your system to suit your purposes. To that end, I have not
had to use ANY rh specific claptrap (such as linuxconf). Everything I have
always been familiar with under kde is there, with a few extra kde-inspired
bells. My two console exceptions were /etc/ppp which is very familiar to me.
Rh have some severe leftovers, thinking the desktop will be a server client.
Lotsa script code that needs castrating. And, I quickly 'reverted' to
Calderas /etc/modules method of loading boot modules. Why other distros have
not taken up this module loading method defeats me.
The kernel naming and location differs from 'standard'. In the context of the
confusion about glibc kernel headers and modprobe/depmod, this is just
another wrinkle on the theme.
As per my install, it is now looking exceptionally like an e2.4 desktop with
latest xfree, latest kernel, latest glibc's, latest KDE. In otherwords,
*everything* that should have come on Col2.5 eight months ago.
The item that impressed the hell out of me (apart from up2date) was kudzu. At
6.2 it was klunky. At 7.1 it autodected AND configured my usb mice, voodoo
and other esoterica there and then. If you don't think a USB mouse is
esoteric, you haven't been using a 2.2.5 kernel.
In short, RH is not suitable for performance freaks. When I have a need to be
clean and mean, I wouldn't touch it because it does too much for me,
automatically. But as a desktop, ie a place where I want to get on and write
a document with a mouse that works, on a video that I can see with fonts that
are readable, to a zip drive that i simply insert (for god's sake). It's a
winner.
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