I have done a fresh install:: Now in my experience with the beta (sybil) I had nil problems with either printer or sound. I have problems now with both in USER only not root: ok permissions, but not so as I can do what I like with permissions and still no go. they are at present: crw------- 1 kantoine root 14, 3 Apr 28 05:38 /dev/dsp crw-rw---- 1 root lp 6, 0 Apr 28 05:38 /dev/lp0 (lp1 is the same) I now have a cardreader icon plus trident symbol and it was mounted as /auto/sda. I deleted this and came up with a positive mount on /dev/sda1 and no more complaints with no msdos fs. BUT, yes there has to be one, when I click on the icon it comes up with an application association window. It should just see the contents of the card I have in, but does not in Konqueror, just a blank window. Its so close but so far too. BTW there isn't any TAKECONSOLE on my system. Lastly I have had success with both the cdrom and cdrw mounting them as sr0 and sr1 so as Xcdroast will see them. No idea why they were causing problems before but! Now for the scanner getting that up and going too. That should be on sdX as well. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- To make yourself look truthful one has to lie, as most people do not want to kmow the truth; but only that which they believe. ------------------------------------------------------------- Keith Antoine aka "skippy" 18 Arkana St The Gap Queensland 4061 Australia PH 16 7 33002161 Retired Geriatric and Sometime Electronics Engineer _______________________________________________ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users