On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:06:17AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
>What a @#$%^ service. I use my hammershome address for most of my stuff but
>my daughter needs an email address, too. I suppose she'll need to use aol.

There are other e-mail alternatives to AOL (I can tell from your e-mail
address you're either a goat-herder or a cartoonist -- Scott Adams).

We set up our cable customer's e-mail to send/receive all their e-mail
through one of our mail servers using uucp over tcp/ip either through their
own registered domain names or through a subdomain of one of our domains.
This is pretty easy to set up Linux/Unix systems.

I know, you say uucp's an obsolete protocol, but it works very well, isn't
blocked by any ISPs I've encountered (many responsible ISPs block outgoing
port 25 to prevent spamming by their customers or their open mail relays),
and doesn't even require a network connection, plain dialup is OK.  We have
been providing uucp e-mail connections to people in the Puget Sound area
since 1984, and still have dialup customers who have not network connection
at all.  One of which, luckypet.com, has a co-located web site that sends
orders to them by e-mail which come to our system, ours dials theirs using
a normal character dialup (e.g. not PPP), sends the e-mails where they're
processed by their SCO OpenServer system automatically.

I have also been working with Caldera's Volution Messaging Server here.
This makes it reasonably easy to set up e-mail only accounts which are
accessible externally via POP/IMAP clients, and also has a webmail
interface using horde/imp.  The major problem with this now is that there
are some modifications necessary to allow external POP/IMAP clients to
relay mail through the server after reading mail.  This can be done by
adding whosond support to the cyrus-imap, and postfix servers.

We haven't been pushing this type of service, largely because I've never
been able to figure what it's worth for people to have reliable e-mail
addresses that aren't tied into a specific ISP, are Linux Friendly, etc.

Bill
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