On Sat 13 Oct 2012 11:16:56 NZDT +1300, Helmut Walle wrote:

> Regarding the claim some made here that all email clients suck...
> agreed, obviously with the one notable exception of pine / alpine...

Hehe, that pine in the a... is always the first thing I send to
/dev/null.

When downloading mail with fetchmail it makes no difference whether to
use imap or pop. It's still what I do now. The upside is that I don't
have to wait for my mail, the downside is that it wastes some bandwidth
on the junk. The clear winner is that I care more about my time than
saving my ISP a few kbytes of traffic.

> Maybe a few more comments on pine: it is all text-based, and that
> makes it lean, small and fast.

Many moons ago I took one look at it, found that for saving 3 emails
from inbox to a specific mail folder it needed the action 3 times, each
time asking too many dumb things like whether I was absolutely sure, and
have been axing it ever since. The mutt way was infinitely more
intelligent: mark each message (1 keypress each), save marked messages
(2 keys), select folder, hit enter.

All you say equally applies to mutt as well as pretty much any other
console based mail client. Big bonus: They also work over ssh. Mind you
so does kmail, but only if you're desperate.

The big K.O. for kmail is that the current version does not support
local mbox mail spools any more. It may read it, but moves all mail into
its own private directory with a billion files in it. Very inefficient,
and that kind of vendor-lock-in is plain not acceptable, given that all
mail clients suck. One of the pluses of mbox is that it keeps the mail
arrival time (decent clients can sort by it - all the newfangled gui
stuff can't), and using grep is possible. I've been recompiling the
latest previous version of kmail since.

Volker

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