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I didn't read luvcview output, sorry hehe. Of course, Ian is right :D Good bye Palmax 2010/4/10 <[email protected]>: > Send Linux-uvc-devel mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/linux-uvc-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linux-uvc-devel digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 16MP or 1.3MP? (Paulo Assis) > 2. Re: Linux-uvc-devel Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9 (Palmax Maverick) > 3. Re: 16MP or 1.3MP? (Ian Latter) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:15:25 +0100 > From: Paulo Assis <[email protected]> > To: Ian Latter <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] 16MP or 1.3MP? > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, > >From your lsusb output the camera max resolution is 640x480 (even for > still image) > If you can get an higher resolution in windows, I guess it's probably > trough some sort of interpolation technique. > I doubt however that the quality is any good. > It can also be that the camera uses some sort of "extra" proprietary > protocol, but if it does, it doesn't seem to reported . > > Best Regards, > Paulo > > 2010/4/9 Ian Latter <[email protected]>: >> Hello, >> >> >> ?Its a been a long time since I was last working with UVC, >> but I found a camera that I couldn't resist, and you're in the >> mainline kernel now .. and I'd like to do some aerial photos >> from my embedded platform .. >> >> ?You have a 093a:2700 device listed on your site as >> working (and my testing confirms this); >> >> ? ?http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ >> ? ?093a:2700 >> ? ? ? ?- iSonic W002 >> ? ? ? ?- A4Tech PK-635K >> ? ? ? ?- Digital Innovations 1.3MP Webcam >> ? ? ? ?--> Pixart Imaging >> >> ?Confirmed in Fedora 12 (kernel 2.6.31 - dmesg output); >> ? ?usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd >> ? ?and address 27 >> ? ?usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=093a, >> ? ?idProduct=2700 >> ? ?usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=16, Product=96, >> ? ?SerialNumber=0 >> ? ?usb 1-1: Product: USB2.0_Camera >> ? ?usb 1-1: Manufacturer: PixArt Imaging Inc. >> ? ?usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice >> ? ?Linux video capture interface: v2.00 >> ? ?uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0_Camera >> ? ?(093a:2700) >> ? ?input: USB2.0_Camera as /devices/pci0000:00/0000: >> ? ?00:02.1/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input6 >> ? ?usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo >> ? ?USB Video Class driver (v0.1.0) >> ? ?ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate >> ? ?6292992 is different from the runtime rate 16000 >> ? ?ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate 34560 >> ? ?is different from the runtime rate 48000 >> ? ?usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio >> ? ?ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate 33024 >> ? ?is different from the runtime rate 48000 >> ? ?ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate 33280 >> ? ?is different from the runtime rate 48000 >> >> >> ?luvcview output looks okay (save that massive fraction); >> ? ?# ./luvcview -L >> ? ?luvcview version 0.2.1 >> ? ?Video driver: x11 >> ? ?A window manager is available >> ? ?video /dev/video0 >> ? ?/dev/video0 does not support read i/o >> ? ?{ pixelformat = 'YUYV', description = 'YUV 4:2:2 (YUYV)' } >> ? ?{ discrete: width = 640, height = 480 } >> ? ? ? ?Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> ? ? ? ?1/5, 1/1, >> ? ?{ discrete: width = 320, height = 240 } >> ? ? ? ?Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> ? ? ? ?1589/15625, 1/1, >> ? ?{ discrete: width = 160, height = 120 } >> ? ? ? ?Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> ? ? ? ?1589/15625, 1/1, >> ? ?{ discrete: width = 176, height = 144 } >> ? ? ? ?Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> ? ? ? ?1589/15625, 1/1, >> ? ?{ discrete: width = 352, height = 288 } >> ? ? ? ?Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> ? ? ? ?1589/15625, 1/1, >> >> >> And I can see my ugly mug at 640x480 via the native >> "Cheese Webcam Booth" app - no magic required. ?Nice. >> >> >> The issue that I have is that this camera is sold as a 16 >> (well, 16.0) mega-pixel camera; >> >> ? ?Speed 16.0Mega Pixel USB2.0 Webcam S4850v >> ? ?https://www.pcdiy.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=9757 >> >> ? ?TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION >> ? ? ?- Speed 16.0Mega Pixel USB2.0 Webcam >> ? ? ?- Effective Static Pixels 16 Mega Pixel >> ? ? ?- Maximum Resolution : 4608 x 3456 >> ? ? ?- Output Format: YUY2 >> ? ? ?- Max Frame Rate: 30fps >> ? ? ?- USB 2.0 compatible >> ? ? ?- White balance: Auto >> ? ? ?- Auto Exposure ( AE ): Auto >> >> >> ?While I understand that I would get 16MP in a photo, >> I don't see the option to take a photo greater than >> 640x480 (the 1.3MP that is reported on the linux-uvc >> compatibility chart). >> >> ?Any thoughts on how to poke this device to get the >> higher resolutions? ?Or is it possible that they're going >> outside of UVC (to something proprietary) to get those >> resolutions? ?Or are they doing something bodgy in >> the win32 software by collating 16 to 32 frames of 1.3MP >> shots to "assemble" a 16MP image? >> >> ?I'm confident that my reseller is above board - the >> specifications on that site match those on the back of >> the product's packaging. ?I obviously can't speak for >> the whole-saler or upstream there-after .. >> >> ?lsusb -v output is attached and is consistent with >> luvcview output. >> >> ?The device does not have an external power option. >> >> >> Thanks for your help, >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ian Latter >> Late night coder .. >> http://midnightcode.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-uvc-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/linux-uvc-devel >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:25:12 +0200 > From: Palmax Maverick <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] Linux-uvc-devel Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9 > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hello there, > > I want to speak about "Maximum Resolution : 4608 x 3456". I think that > it could get this huge resolution only as a Still Image. > You should remember that still image capture is not include in > linux-uvc (you may read it in http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/#status ). > But I'm studying Still Image for getting this feature to linux-uvc. > > 32$ is a too good price for a cool webcam... I don't know this manufacture. > > If you buy it, you would send us its lsusb description for > understanding this device. > > > Good bye > Palmax > > 2010/4/9 <[email protected]>: >> Send Linux-uvc-devel mailing list submissions to >> ? ? ? [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> ? ? ? ?https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/linux-uvc-devel >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> ? ? ? [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> ? ? ? [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Linux-uvc-devel digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> ? 1. 16MP or 1.3MP? (Ian Latter) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:40:41 +1000 >> From: "Ian Latter" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Linux-uvc-devel] 16MP or 1.3MP? >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hello, >> >> >> ?Its a been a long time since I was last working with UVC, >> but I found a camera that I couldn't resist, and you're in the >> mainline kernel now .. and I'd like to do some aerial photos >> from my embedded platform .. >> >> ?You have a 093a:2700 device listed on your site as >> working (and my testing confirms this); >> >> ? ?http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ >> ? ?093a:2700 >> ? ? ? ?- iSonic W002 >> ? ? ? ?- A4Tech PK-635K >> ? ? ? ?- Digital Innovations 1.3MP Webcam >> ? ? ? ?--> Pixart Imaging >> >> ?Confirmed in Fedora 12 (kernel 2.6.31 - dmesg output); >> ? ?usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd >> ? ?and address 27 >> ? ?usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=093a, >> ? ?idProduct=2700 >> ? ?usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=16, Product=96, >> ? ?SerialNumber=0 >> ? ?usb 1-1: Product: USB2.0_Camera >> ? ?usb 1-1: Manufacturer: PixArt Imaging Inc. >> ? ?usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice >> ? ?Linux video capture interface: v2.00 >> ? ?uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0_Camera >> ? ?(093a:2700) >> ? ?input: USB2.0_Camera as /devices/pci0000:00/0000: >> ? ?00:02.1/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input6 >> ? ?usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo >> ? ?USB Video Class driver (v0.1.0) >> ? ?ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate >> ? ?6292992 is different from the runtime rate 16000 >> ? ?ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate 34560 >> ? ?is different from the runtime rate 48000 >> ? ?usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio >> ? ?ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate 33024 >> ? ?is different from the runtime rate 48000 >> ? ?ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate 33280 >> ? ?is different from the runtime rate 48000 >> >> >> ?luvcview output looks okay (save that massive fraction); >> ? ?# ./luvcview -L >> ? ?luvcview version 0.2.1 >> ? ?Video driver: x11 >> ? ?A window manager is available >> ? ?video /dev/video0 >> ? ?/dev/video0 does not support read i/o >> ? ?{ pixelformat = 'YUYV', description = 'YUV 4:2:2 (YUYV)' } >> ? ?{ discrete: width = 640, height = 480 } >> ? ? ? ?Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> ? ? ? ?1/5, 1/1, >> ? ?{ discrete: width = 320, height = 240 } >> ? ? ? ?Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> ? ? ? ?1589/15625, 1/1, >> ? ?{ discrete: width = 160, height = 120 } >> ? ? ? ?Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> ? ? ? ?1589/15625, 1/1, >> ? ?{ discrete: width = 176, height = 144 } >> ? ? ? ?Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> ? ? ? ?1589/15625, 1/1, >> ? ?{ discrete: width = 352, height = 288 } >> ? ? ? ?Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> ? ? ? ?1589/15625, 1/1, >> >> >> And I can see my ugly mug at 640x480 via the native >> "Cheese Webcam Booth" app - no magic required. ?Nice. >> >> >> The issue that I have is that this camera is sold as a 16 >> (well, 16.0) mega-pixel camera; >> >> ? ?Speed 16.0Mega Pixel USB2.0 Webcam S4850v >> ? ?https://www.pcdiy.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=9757 >> >> ? ?TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION >> ? ? ?- Speed 16.0Mega Pixel USB2.0 Webcam >> ? ? ?- Effective Static Pixels 16 Mega Pixel >> ? ? ?- Maximum Resolution : 4608 x 3456 >> ? ? ?- Output Format: YUY2 >> ? ? ?- Max Frame Rate: 30fps >> ? ? ?- USB 2.0 compatible >> ? ? ?- White balance: Auto >> ? ? ?- Auto Exposure ( AE ): Auto >> >> >> ?While I understand that I would get 16MP in a photo, >> I don't see the option to take a photo greater than >> 640x480 (the 1.3MP that is reported on the linux-uvc >> compatibility chart). >> >> ?Any thoughts on how to poke this device to get the >> higher resolutions? ?Or is it possible that they're going >> outside of UVC (to something proprietary) to get those >> resolutions? ?Or are they doing something bodgy in >> the win32 software by collating 16 to 32 frames of 1.3MP >> shots to "assemble" a 16MP image? >> >> ?I'm confident that my reseller is above board - the >> specifications on that site match those on the back of >> the product's packaging. ?I obviously can't speak for >> the whole-saler or upstream there-after .. >> >> ?lsusb -v output is attached and is consistent with >> luvcview output. >> >> ?The device does not have an external power option. >> >> >> Thanks for your help, >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ian Latter >> Late night coder .. >> http://midnightcode.org/ >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... >> Name: lsusb.txt >> URL: >> <https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/linux-uvc-devel/attachments/20100409/af1c174c/attachment.txt> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-uvc-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/linux-uvc-devel >> >> >> End of Linux-uvc-devel Digest, Vol 46, Issue 9 >> ********************************************** >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:14:57 +1000 > From: "Ian Latter" <[email protected]> > To: "Paulo Assis" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] 16MP or 1.3MP? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Paulo, > > > Out of the 15-or-so computers that I own none of them > run Windows, so I can't actually test it in Windows here. > I'll send it round to a mates place and see what he makes > of it - and I'll try and get a "high res" sample up on a web > server somewhere. > > This morning I did a quick search for specifications, and > which-ever sensor chip is inside it, it can't be good; > > http://www.pixart.com.tw/productsditel.asp?ToPage=1&productclassify_id=8 > > The max spec there is for a 640x480 sensor - so it > must be Win32 application magic - which, I agree, must > make an output image that is as fuzzy as foobar ... > > > Thanks, > > ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Paulo Assis" <[email protected]> >>To: "Ian Latter" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] 16MP or 1.3MP? >>Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:15:25 +0100 >> >> Hi, >> From your lsusb output the camera max resolution is > 640x480 (even for >> still image) >> If you can get an higher resolution in windows, I guess > it's probably >> trough some sort of interpolation technique. >> I doubt however that the quality is any good. >> It can also be that the camera uses some sort of "extra" > proprietary >> protocol, but if it does, it doesn't seem to reported . >> >> Best Regards, >> Paulo >> >> 2010/4/9 Ian Latter <[email protected]>: >> > Hello, >> > >> > >> > �Its a been a long time since I was last working with UVC, >> > but I found a camera that I couldn't resist, and you're > in the >> > mainline kernel now .. and I'd like to do some aerial photos >> > from my embedded platform .. >> > >> > �You have a 093a:2700 device listed on your site as >> > working (and my testing confirms this); >> > >> > � �http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ >> > � �093a:2700 >> > � � � �- iSonic W002 >> > � � � �- A4Tech PK-635K >> > � � � �- Digital Innovations 1.3MP Webcam >> > � � � �--> Pixart Imaging >> > >> > �Confirmed in Fedora 12 (kernel 2.6.31 - dmesg output); >> > � �usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd >> > � �and address 27 >> > � �usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=093a, >> > � �idProduct=2700 >> > � �usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=16, Product=96, >> > � �SerialNumber=0 >> > � �usb 1-1: Product: USB2.0_Camera >> > � �usb 1-1: Manufacturer: PixArt Imaging Inc. >> > � �usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice >> > � �Linux video capture interface: v2.00 >> > � �uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0_Camera >> > � �(093a:2700) >> > � �input: USB2.0_Camera as /devices/pci0000:00/0000: >> > � �00:02.1/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input6 >> > � �usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo >> > � �USB Video Class driver (v0.1.0) >> > � �ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate >> > � �6292992 is different from the runtime rate 16000 >> > � �ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate 34560 >> > � �is different from the runtime rate 48000 >> > � �usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio >> > � �ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate 33024 >> > � �is different from the runtime rate 48000 >> > � �ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:1300: current rate 33280 >> > � �is different from the runtime rate 48000 >> > >> > >> > �luvcview output looks okay (save that massive fraction); >> > � �# ./luvcview -L >> > � �luvcview version 0.2.1 >> > � �Video driver: x11 >> > � �A window manager is available >> > � �video /dev/video0 >> > � �/dev/video0 does not support read i/o >> > � �{ pixelformat = 'YUYV', description = 'YUV 4:2:2 > (YUYV)' } >> > � �{ discrete: width = 640, height = 480 } >> > � � � �Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> > � � � �1/5, 1/1, >> > � �{ discrete: width = 320, height = 240 } >> > � � � �Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> > � � � �1589/15625, 1/1, >> > � �{ discrete: width = 160, height = 120 } >> > � � � �Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> > � � � �1589/15625, 1/1, >> > � �{ discrete: width = 176, height = 144 } >> > � � � �Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> > � � � �1589/15625, 1/1, >> > � �{ discrete: width = 352, height = 288 } >> > � � � �Time interval between frame: 1/30, 1/20, 1/15, 1/10, >> > � � � �1589/15625, 1/1, >> > >> > >> > And I can see my ugly mug at 640x480 via the native >> > "Cheese Webcam Booth" app - no magic required. �Nice. >> > >> > >> > The issue that I have is that this camera is sold as a 16 >> > (well, 16.0) mega-pixel camera; >> > >> > � �Speed 16.0Mega Pixel USB2.0 Webcam S4850v >> > � > �https://www.pcdiy.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=9757 >> > >> > � �TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION >> > � � �- Speed 16.0Mega Pixel USB2.0 Webcam >> > � � �- Effective Static Pixels 16 Mega Pixel >> > � � �- Maximum Resolution : 4608 x 3456 >> > � � �- Output Format: YUY2 >> > � � �- Max Frame Rate: 30fps >> > � � �- USB 2.0 compatible >> > � � �- White balance: Auto >> > � � �- Auto Exposure ( AE ): Auto >> > >> > >> > �While I understand that I would get 16MP in a photo, >> > I don't see the option to take a photo greater than >> > 640x480 (the 1.3MP that is reported on the linux-uvc >> > compatibility chart). >> > >> > �Any thoughts on how to poke this device to get the >> > higher resolutions? �Or is it possible that they're going >> > outside of UVC (to something proprietary) to get those >> > resolutions? �Or are they doing something bodgy in >> > the win32 software by collating 16 to 32 frames of 1.3MP >> > shots to "assemble" a 16MP image? >> > >> > �I'm confident that my reseller is above board - the >> > specifications on that site match those on the back of >> > the product's packaging. �I obviously can't speak for >> > the whole-saler or upstream there-after .. >> > >> > �lsusb -v output is attached and is consistent with >> > luvcview output. >> > >> > �The device does not have an external power option. >> > >> > >> > Thanks for your help, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Ian Latter >> > Late night coder .. >> > http://midnightcode.org/ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Linux-uvc-devel mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/linux-uvc-devel >> > >> > >> > > > -- > Ian Latter > Late night coder .. > http://midnightcode.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-uvc-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/linux-uvc-devel > > > End of Linux-uvc-devel Digest, Vol 46, Issue 10 > *********************************************** > _______________________________________________ Linux-uvc-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/linux-uvc-devel
