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(MsTiFtS) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:08:41 +0200 > From: P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Linux4nano-dev] 2G and 3G same encryption? > To: "Hardware and developpement mailing list." > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > After i downgraded it to 1.1.1, it showed in itunes "Software Version: 1.1.1". > And after i installed the 3G firmware, it shows 1.1.3. > when having an older version of the firmware in the update folder, and > starting itunes when your not connected to the internet, when > restoring, it asks you if you want to use an older version, so i > suppose it downgrades. > What do you mean by "snapshot"? > 2007/10/11, MsTiFtS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I expected that they would have the same encryption, but I wouldn't have >> thought, that your iPod would work with a 3g firmware. >> Can you confirm the firmware was really installed? Does it show version >> 1.1.3 again? Did it really downgrade to 1.1.1 properly? >> Can you make a snapshot of the firmware partition? >> Has someone already compared 2g and 3g firmware images? How do they >> usually differ? >> >> P schrieb: >> > Hello people! >> > I was fooling around with Itunes and my 2g nano, and i downgraded from >> > 1.1.3 to 1.1.1, then i deleted the firmware update files, then i put >> > the 3g update file ( iPod_29.1.1.3.ipsw ) in the update folder, >> > renamed ,edited the manifest file and such, started Itunes again, and >> > restored. >> > This was made after i disconnected from the Internet, and with a >> > patched itunes.exe (so i don't need a signature file). >> > >> > I don't know if this means anything, or is any help at all, but my 2g >> > nano works like before, no extra stuff added tho :( >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Linux4nano-dev mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev >> > http://www.linux4nano.org >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux4nano-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev >> http://www.linux4nano.org >> > ------------------------------ > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:14:33 +0200 > From: MsTiFtS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Linux4nano-dev] 2G and 3G same encryption? > To: "Hardware and developpement mailing list." > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > If P's experiment really worked, this will lead to the conclusion that > they are actually using the same firmware on these devices, maybe with > some minor fixpacks etc. or added support for the 3g while keeping > support for the 2g. > If it works at all, I guess it detects what kind of player it is running > on and will behave like it is expected to. > The next step would be to check/prove that a 2g firmware works on a 3g, too. > - k - schrieb: >> Does it fit in the tiny nano 2g screen? >> >> 2007/10/11, MsTiFtS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> I expected that they would have the same encryption, but I wouldn't have >>> thought, that your iPod would work with a 3g firmware. >>> Can you confirm the firmware was really installed? Does it show version >>> 1.1.3 again? Did it really downgrade to 1.1.1 properly? >>> Can you make a snapshot of the firmware partition? >>> Has someone already compared 2g and 3g firmware images? How do they >>> usually differ? >>> >>> P schrieb: >>> >>>> Hello people! >>>> I was fooling around with Itunes and my 2g nano, and i downgraded from >>>> 1.1.3 to 1.1.1, then i deleted the firmware update files, then i put >>>> the 3g update file ( iPod_29.1.1.3.ipsw ) in the update folder, >>>> renamed ,edited the manifest file and such, started Itunes again, and >>>> restored. >>>> This was made after i disconnected from the Internet, and with a >>>> patched itunes.exe (so i don't need a signature file). >>>> >>>> I don't know if this means anything, or is any help at all, but my 2g >>>> nano works like before, no extra stuff added tho :( >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Linux4nano-dev mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev >>>> http://www.linux4nano.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Linux4nano-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev >>> http://www.linux4nano.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux4nano-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev >> http://www.linux4nano.org >> >> > ------------------------------ > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:17:44 +0200 > From: MsTiFtS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Linux4nano-dev] 2G and 3G same encryption? > To: "Hardware and developpement mailing list." > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > I meant a copy of the actual firmware partition of your iPod, but I > don't think we really need one, except for maybe comparing the > partitions contents of a 2g and 3g with exactly the same firmware, which > would be in fact quite interesting, although I expect they will match > 100%. Does anyone have a 3g to try installing 2g firmware on it? (If you > don't want to break your iPod by testing this, better disable the AUPD > file before disconnecting the iPod, although I would expect 2g disk mode > to run on 3g, too. > How does disk mode look like on 3g? > P schrieb: >> After i downgraded it to 1.1.1, it showed in itunes "Software Version: >> 1.1.1". >> And after i installed the 3G firmware, it shows 1.1.3. >> when having an older version of the firmware in the update folder, and >> starting itunes when your not connected to the internet, when >> restoring, it asks you if you want to use an older version, so i >> suppose it downgrades. >> What do you mean by "snapshot"? >> >> 2007/10/11, MsTiFtS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> I expected that they would have the same encryption, but I wouldn't have >>> thought, that your iPod would work with a 3g firmware. >>> Can you confirm the firmware was really installed? Does it show version >>> 1.1.3 again? Did it really downgrade to 1.1.1 properly? >>> Can you make a snapshot of the firmware partition? >>> Has someone already compared 2g and 3g firmware images? How do they >>> usually differ? >>> >>> P schrieb: >>> >>>> Hello people! >>>> I was fooling around with Itunes and my 2g nano, and i downgraded from >>>> 1.1.3 to 1.1.1, then i deleted the firmware update files, then i put >>>> the 3g update file ( iPod_29.1.1.3.ipsw ) in the update folder, >>>> renamed ,edited the manifest file and such, started Itunes again, and >>>> restored. >>>> This was made after i disconnected from the Internet, and with a >>>> patched itunes.exe (so i don't need a signature file). >>>> >>>> I don't know if this means anything, or is any help at all, but my 2g >>>> nano works like before, no extra stuff added tho :( >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Linux4nano-dev mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev >>>> http://www.linux4nano.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Linux4nano-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev >>> http://www.linux4nano.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux4nano-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev >> http://www.linux4nano.org >> >> > ------------------------------ > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:39:56 +0200 > From: P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Linux4nano-dev] 2G and 3G same encryption? > To: "Hardware and developpement mailing list." > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > I did the same thing now, downgraded to 1.1.1, and upgrading with the 3G > 1.1.3. > And i noticed something: > iPod_19.1.1.3.ipsw & iPod_29.1.1.3.ipsw contains the exact same file, > only its renamed, this is confirmed by extracting "Firmware-19.1.1.3" > and "Firmware-29.1.1.3" with winrar, and doing a crc check, it is the > same file. > ------------------------------ > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:48:14 +0200 > From: MsTiFtS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Linux4nano-dev] 2G and 3G same encryption? > To: "Hardware and developpement mailing list." > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > That's exactly what I expected regarding your experment's results. > P schrieb: >> I did the same thing now, downgraded to 1.1.1, and upgrading with the 3G >> 1.1.3. >> And i noticed something: >> iPod_19.1.1.3.ipsw & iPod_29.1.1.3.ipsw contains the exact same file, >> only its renamed, this is confirmed by extracting "Firmware-19.1.1.3" >> and "Firmware-29.1.1.3" with winrar, and doing a crc check, it is the >> same file. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux4nano-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev >> http://www.linux4nano.org >> >> > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Linux4nano-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev > End of Linux4nano-dev Digest, Vol 9, Issue 22 > ********************************************* That's all? :( There http://www.securitylab.ru/vulnerability/306935.php lying the Itunes, quicktime buglist. Aren't Itunes can't be exploited to get the damned encryption key? I can't believe it! Well, may be i'm too stupid, but i feel, that something wrong there. May be somebody from Apple was injected his malicious mind into linux4nano team to spoil our beliefs executing wrong ideas in it? And something says, that not all was lost: May we try to exploit Nano 2G's embedded XML parser? Upload MP3 with buffer-overflowing ID3 tags? Itunes didn't want to do that, simply cutting off bad/damaged tags, but something named 'Yamipod', that i find in my junkfiles, can do that, also can upload books and RSS on ipods as a notes... If i'm aren't right, sorry. And sorry for bad English - USA makes terror, stealing and riding since 1900'th year and nobody can't stop them, and I generally unhappy with this. Old-old Russian flyphrase: 'On thief cap burns', can't be rightly translated to English, but said for himself (also can't be translated perfectly :)). And, if i'm wrong here too - sorry again. -- WBR, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Linux4nano-dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/linux4nano-dev http://www.linux4nano.org
