it means that > 10 seconds, or > 260°C and say bye bye to the chip.

If anyone has a heat gun it's easy to extract the chip, sorry I don't
have one so I can't help for it.
> Maybe the 1st problem we have to solve is to extract the chip from the
> PCB while taking care of the data on it. The data sheet said  "Surface
> Mount Solder Reflow Temperature . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 260°C for 10 seconds" on P9.
> Actually  I don't understand this sentence very much. Does that mean
> we have to heat up the PCB for 10s or more time at 260°C to get the
> solder melt, or the maximum time we can heat up is 10s, or anything
> else? Thanks.
>
> David
>
> On Feb 1, 2008 10:05 PM, MsTiFtS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>     Emmanuel Fleury schrieb:
>     > tof wrote:
>     >
>     >> this  is a standard flash, with 1.8V power supply.
>     >> I can do it.
>     >>
>     >> desoldering could be difficult if it is glued.
>     >>
>     >
>     > So, if I do understand well, it would require to extract the
>     chip from
>     > the iPod (without heating it too much to not loose the data) and
>     then
>     > plug it onto another socket where we can read it.
>     >
>     These chips rather die completely than lose their data.
>     > What kind of hardware do people usually use for such desoldering
>     without
>     > harm for the chip ? And where can we usually find it, and
>     eventually how
>     > much does it cost ?
>     >
>     Usually it's best to heat up the PCB while pulling the chip away from
>     it. You will need about 260°C to make the solder melt, but the chip
>     should not be heated above that temperature for more than 10
>     seconds. So
>     you need something that heats up the PCB really quickly. One usually
>     uses some kind of hot air blowers for that, but if you want to
>     take the
>     risk, you can try to do it with some kind of gas burner.
>     >> resoldering : its possible to solder each ball to a wire
>     >>
>     Well, if you have appropriate soldering equipment, it's possible
>     to do that.
>     >> readout : i have some avr capable of 2.7v operation. can be easily
>     >> interfaced with a 1.8v device.
>     >>
>     > If we could have the electronic schema of such reader (and some
>     > information on how to interpret the data once we get it) it
>     would be great.
>     >
>     Connect A0-A18 and DQ0-DQ15 to the AVR, CE#, OE# and Vss to GND,
>     WE# and
>     Vdd to 1,8V. Depending of the kind of outputs the AVR has, you may
>     also
>     need to use resistors for the Axx connections, or you may need to
>     connect Axx to 1,8V through some resistors. A datasheet of the AVR
>     would
>     clarify this.
>     The data we will get out of it will probably be some kind of ARM
>     executable code, which can probably be disassembled by IDA Pro etc.
>     In case they should have taken precautions against that, the
>     content of
>     that chip may also be encrypted with the decryption code and key being
>     in a small internal ROM in the ARM, supposed it has one. Then we would
>     need to "sniff" the contents of the RAM at runtime, or somehow record
>     the data transmitted by the ARM to the RAM at boot time.
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