I agree to a certain degree that installfests are no longer in vogue with the times. As you've already mentioned installs are so easy that it makes not sense to have them. But even then you still have the brave newbies venturing into this, and when some support is available then why not take advantage of it. Installfest may be just the thing needed to push some people out there to use Linux. Sometimes the RTFM advice doesn't work for some people, though I feel it should. Which is where the installfests become a part technical and part social event, an event where newbies, power users and gurus get to mingle and work just on hardware/software issues.

As far as NJULUGs planning an installfest, I think it will be one of the few events, besides LinuxWorld, that various LUGs in NJ get to work together. Of course if you can couple in presentations/demonstrations on issues/topics that you mentioned then you're virtually making it a mini-Linux conference. So lets just say its a collaborative event for us to get to know each other.

So are installfests still important? I say yes. Sometimes its those few irritating, stubborn hardware issues that helps us learn a lot. Its an adventure. Eventually when drivers, apps and new hardware become more and more available for Linux, we're going to be left with only beer-pizza meetings.

Now to get off the soap box. Whos next?

Jeff

Wayne Hardy wrote:

Ahmed in particular, and
INSTALLFESTS in general...

If you want help with an install, one suggestion is to
bring your machine (and cd's) to the next hamlug
meeting and we'll help you. Let us know ahead of time
if you intend to do this and what you wish to install.


Regarding installfest's in general... Perhaps I should take time to really compose a piece on this topic and then submit it to the ML but here goes off the top of my head.

Installfests use to be important because Linux
installs were problematic. I, myself, did my first
linux install (slackware) at an install fest at
Rutgers about 9 years ago.

What is happening now, however, is that LInux installs
are so easy, painless and trouble free that meetings
devoted to installs may not be necessary. The last few
times I installed Linux it went in easier than windows
(ahh... so sweet!). In fact, I was actually
dissappointed because there was nothing to do except
click the mouse a few times and I didn't get a chance
to learn anything from having to fix things that went
wrong! (nothing went wrong!)

The njLUG keeps talking about an installfest but I
have to ask "why"? It's purpose is outdated. Gathering
for mutual support is a wonderful thing but I think
gathering to resolve install problems is the right
solution for the wrong time in history. There are no
longer Linux install problems to resolve (maybe a few
but you know what I mean).

A gathering is wonderful I just think we have a
purpose from the past that is no longer necessary and
we need a new purpose - and a new name. What else is
there to do with Linux that needs a "gathering". I'd
rather spend time on this question than the question
of "when and where shall we have an installfest"?

Anyone with me on this line of thinking?

I'm not trying to rain on the enthusiasm of njLUG, I'm
just saying let's channel the enthusiasm into
something more up with the times. And I think we don't
know what that is yet.

How 'bout: How to use Linux as a workstation with full
office, browsing, email, image, sound and video
capability in one afternoon (there's a challenge).

Or setting up your own DNS and web page caching and
automatic link acquisition to speed your web browsing.

Or video conferencing or netmeeting capability on
Linux among all the machines that arrive at the event.

How 'bout a Gnome tutorial so people can do
"everything windows" using Gnome to give them
immediate facility with a Linux GUI. (Where are those
system menus hidden anyway).

Just some suggestions.

Wayne




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