As far as Internet exchanges with more peering options - perhaps you'd give 
these guys a look:

  - https://purecolo.ca/ (Multi carrier data-centre, on OGIX Internet exchange: 
https://ogix.ca/ )
  - https://dnsnetworks.com/en/corporate-cloud-solution.html (Hosting with 
pure-colo)

Any ideas on using this provider? (testimonials or other analysis -   
please email me private if you've worked with them and/or have some stats on 
OGIX traffic.)

Perhaps that is closer in line to where you might host a server if your 
end-goal is to
peer with more providers to reduce your ping times (ms) and thus delay for 
multi-media collab in NCR/Canada region.

According to this article - OGIX is the successor to OTTIX (and has multiple 
ISP):

  - 
https://obj.ca/article/techopia-ottawa-doesnt-have-internet-exchange-point-heres-why-thats-problem
  - 
https://ca.linkedin.com/company/igs-hawkesbury?trk=similar-pages_result-card_full-click
  - 
https://ca.linkedin.com/company/storm-internet?trk=similar-pages_result-card_full-click

The question might be is there a way to confirm ping times across multiple 
member ISP (Bell to Rogers, TekSavvy to Storm, etc.)

Thanks,
Allan Fields

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenny B" <kennyonfaceb...@gmail.com>
To: "Ian! D. Allen" <idal...@idallen.ca>
Cc: linux@linux-ottawa.org
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 9:14:33 AM
Subject: Re: [linux] Ottawa lack of IXP peering

I've heard about JackTrip but haven't tried it. Hadn't heard of jamulus
before.
The first doc below says 25 ms round trip is a critical threshold, second
one says it's not adequate, so that's maybe a rough guideline. 25 ms round
trip is like sitting 14 feet apart. Social distance plus!
JackTrip software allows musicians to sync performances online | Stanford
News
<https://news.stanford.edu/2020/09/18/jacktrip-software-allows-musicians-sync-performances-online/>
JackTrip: Under the Hood of an Engine for Network Audio (stanford.edu)
<https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jcaceres/publications/PDFs/conferences/2009-caceres_chafe-ICMC-jacktrip.pdf>
I've done a little pinging and was a bit disappointed.

Thanks for posting this, I'm encouraged again.

I'm on teksavvy.


On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 3:53 AM Ian! D. Allen <idal...@idallen.ca> wrote:

> Just heard about SyncSpace.live and their ability to host live ensemble
> music sessions (delay 10ms or less) using Jamulus/JackTrip to servers
> placed in some cities.
>
> Ottawa has a server but, alas, only Bell peers with it.
>
> "Known issues with Internet routing: Some of the issues we are aware of
> with ISPs failing to keep local traffic local:
>
> Ottawa, Canada; Rogers, TekSavvy, CanNet, Acanac, Start, and Virgin
> route all traffic via Toronto (or worse). If you or any people in your
> ensemble are using one of these ISPs it’s probably best to use a
> Toronto server. Bell will route directly to our Ottawa servers with 2
> – 5ms roundtrip network latency. It seems Videotron is also good."
>
> Distributel also routes via Montreal and then Toronto.
>
> What can we do to get local Ottawa ISPs to peer with each other?
>
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